California's top court overturns gay marriage ban

[Coramoor]

Originally Posted by TSteven

FYI:

By what scale, the NYT?

[Dionysus]

Woo hoo! Hoo-rays for gays!

[JonoBN41]

DSTCHAOS, I appreciate your answering, but you seem to focus heavily on the financial aspect and I simply have never heard anyone state those reasons for opposing gay marriage. Maybe some people do. Something else to think about. Thanks.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by JonoBN41

Something else to think about. Thanks.

Yep. You're welcome.

[DeltAlum]

I understand the concept of checks and balances, and that some think court decisions these days may infringe on what should be a legislative process.

All that aside, my opinion is that if that's going to happen, this is a good decision.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Unfortunate, but not surprising.

This is what happens when judges decide what feels right and then seek to back that up with law.

Originally Posted by SECdomination

California courts would pull a stunt like this. Civil unions aren't enough? Why do gays (and all their supporters) feel the need to change the definition of marriage?
Not to be a complete prick, but I don't know any gay people and I prefer not to engage them in morality debates. Could someone please explain the need for this? I honestly thought that civil unions accomplished the same thing.




You would be.
I won't disappoint though. In fact, I'm not sure how much I can participate in this thread for the sheer amount of nausea it's already causing me.
So where are the rest of you anti gay marriage folk?

"The decision was a bold surprise from a moderately conservative, Republican-dominated court that legal scholars have long dubbed "cautious," and experts said it was likely to influence other courts around the country."
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...,6169783.story

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

Why do gays (and all their supporters) feel the need to change the definition of marriage?

I'm with you. I don't get it either. I never understood why gay people decided to turn their private lives into a political agenda.

Not to be a complete prick, but I don't know any gay people and I prefer not to engage them in morality debates. Could someone please explain the need for this? I honestly thought that civil unions accomplished the same thing.

I do know gay people, but I do try to avoid the morality debate with them. I have decided that I will not try to convince them of my view point as I will not be convinved by theirs. I just stick to weather and general chit chat.

I won't disappoint though. In fact, I'm not sure how much I can participate in this thread for the sheer amount of nausea it's already causing me.
So where are the rest of you anti gay marriage folk?

I'm here.

[JonoBN41]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

Civil unions aren't enough? Why do gays (and all their supporters) feel the need to change the definition of marriage?

Definitions are changed and added to all the time. A pen is no longer a quill dipped in ink, phones need not be connected by wires, and automobiles aren't necessarily powered by internal combustion engines. But we didn't take up petitions to ban ball-point pens, cellphones, and electric or hybrid cars just because they didn't fit the existing definition. And who would propose banning online bulletin boards such as Greek Chat simply because it's not an actual board attached to a wall? When women were elected to the House of Representatives, they weren't "congressmen", they are called congresswomen. Things change. We progress.

When has mankind - oops humankind - ever constrained itself from experiencing something new out of fear of a definition?

The terms "married" and "spouse" are written into innumerable policies including insurance coverage, probate laws, tax laws, and trying to find out someone's condition at a hospital, just to name a few. Civil union might sound as if it's good enough, but is not the same thing.

[Senusret I]

woooooooow

[nate2512]

This is the most ridiculous thing ever. While the rest of the world is concerned with things like global warming, soaring oil prices, and a recessed economy, all the selfish homosexuals are worried about are themselves, its the most ridiculously selfish thing I've ever heard in my life. We don't need to be spending all this taxpayer money just so gays can call themselves married. Next time you all gripe about oil prices remember that you're also working your ass off just so gays can use up all of your tax dollars tying up courts that could be used for something much more useful. Give it a break, gays are disgusting, and it's morally wrong.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by nate2512

This is the most ridiculous thing ever. While the rest of the world is concerned with things like global warming, soaring oil prices, and a recessed economy, all the selfish homosexuals are worried about are themselves, its the most ridiculously selfish thing I've ever heard in my life. We don't need to be spending all this taxpayer money just so gays can call themselves married. Next time you all gripe about oil prices remember that you're also working your ass off just so gays can use up all of your tax dollars tying up courts that could be used for something much more useful. Give it a break, gays are disgusting, and it's morally wrong.

I don't think that homosexuals are the ones making the fuss.

[nate2512]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I don't think that homosexuals are the ones making the fuss.

Because straight people want to be married to people of the same sex?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by nate2512

Because straight people want to be married to people of the same sex?

Yes, that's exactly what I meant

Gay people are seeking the right to be equal in this matter. It's others who are getting up in arms about it, hosting rallies and whatnot when they could be, as you put it, focusing on other issues.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I don't think that homosexuals are the ones making the fuss.

Agree.

[DSTCHAOS]

You selfish gays, you.