Please Help Me

[Little32]

I just find it funny how folks claiming to be in highschool come here, asking for advice, and then try to jump bad at folks who not only have the letters they covet but also the degrees they are trying to earn.

Look here youngin--if indeed you are a youth, I am not quite sold on that fact--you don't need to respond to everything that people post. Sometimes it is good to sit back, observe, and absorb. Lots of times, folks are telling you exactly what you need to know, even if it is not exactly what you want to hear; and sometimes you miss it because you think that you need to respond tit for tat--to what, prove your e-manhood.

Had you taken the suggested course of action, you would have discovered that the question that you asked had already been asked and answered on this board many times over. Moreover, you might not have alienated the folks on this board who might have been willing to help you--had your approach been different.

I am not even going to address the insults and attempted checkings that you have doled out. The fact of the matter is that we are in a position that you want to be in. We have attained membership in our desired organizations; more than that, most of us have graduated from college, and many have advanced degrees. We have information that you desire; so you need to act accordingly when requesting that information(i. e. reading the T.O.S. at the top of every board, following those rules, and using discretion and humility in broaching the subject of your membership pursuit.) Otherwise, don't feign indignation when you get clowned.

[Little32]

Do you think that this is the last time that you might feel judged during your pursuit? Really?

Originally Posted by 2GQ4U

And I most definately was being judged. According you y'all I'm impatient, unable to pursue a fraternity, and in need of a mental evaluation... Last time I checked, those were judgments... Let me know if I'm wrong...

But anyway, thank you again to everyone who helped me, but I was introduced today to a distant uncle of mine today who is the Polemarch of the Province that the Chapter that I am interested in is located, and he will provide me with the rest of the information (and recommendation) that I need...

I am glad you met your "distant uncle." How convenient it is that he is polemarch of the chapter's province; guess that means you are a shoe-in.

[Little32]

Yeah, ok, good. Hope the road to Kappa is a smooth as you seem to think it should be.

No, I really don't.

[Little32]

Originally Posted by 2GQ4U

Who said I thought it was gonna be easy??? There yall go assuming things again...

That's good because judging from your conduct in this thread it won't be.

Looks like someone is going back to edit the conversation.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by 2GQ4U

That was part of my whole original post! I had no idea what the NPHC expectation of researching a desired organization was. I thought going up to or calling the Kappas I met would get me blackballed, and internet searching brought me here. I HATE blogs for exactly the reason of what is going on right now. I really felt I had no other choice. The Kappa Alpha Psi website has NO category for information for Prospective Applicants. What else do you propose I should have done? Stay quiet? I did not know how early I should try to get all of my ducks in a row before I make any type of suggestion to the Brothers that I am seriously interested in membership. I really thought I was being respectful in how I approached my questions, I later realized that I had broke rules in doing so, but that was honestly not my intention. I actually did think to message the moderator first, because if he is the moderator of the Kappa thread, he must be the right person to talk to, but I thought posting a thread would catch more attention.

I'm eager to go through the intake process because I want to show how much I am really willing to sacrifice, what I am willing to do, and to display my loyalty to the Fraternity. I really feel like I will become Kappa BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY, and I wanted to know if anyone else felt like this before they went through the process. I want to know if I'm really crazy for sitting on the computer watching a probate and imagining how good it must feel at that moment and hoping that one day I can be privileged enough to have that feeling because I really feel like a loser right now, forreal, and I have never felt anything like this.. I just honestly feel that Kappa Alpha Psi will help me to become a better man than I would be without it, and I believe that i can help contibute to the organization.

And I most definately was being judged. According you y'all I'm impatient, unable to pursue a fraternity, and in need of a mental evaluation... Last time I checked, those were judgments... Let me know if I'm wrong...

Then tell us, what is your definition of judgment? Because I viewed the comments made as helpful hints actually trying to cheer you on as you accomplish your goals.

If it is NOT on the Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity, Inc. International website, you do not need to know it...

At best, the NPHC International website states you need to be in college and have a GPA for any fraternity membership.

This means, your first and foremost objective, primary objective is to be in college and become successful academically... That is the kind of things I have seen with most of the Kappa men who have influenced my life... One gentleman who is my godfather was the Surgeon General nominee in the mid-1990's under the Clinton Administration.

That means you start with that search and learn... Which also means you read between the lines.

When folks tell you to that you are impatient, that means you find patience...

Because I've got mine, and you need to get yours... So you can do this the way you are doing it, begging for spoon feeding, which I am giving to you now for some reason, and is the hard way--or--shut up, read--RESEARCH--and learn...

What does a wise man do?

[Little32]

Originally Posted by 2GQ4U

Im deleting all of my posts and have asked the moderator to delete the thread again, it's pointless, i dont need y'all answering questions anymore and all yall wanna do is argue... whatever lol, i give up... you're better than me because you have have your letters, are already in college (or graduated you didn't really say) and because you are in the position you want to be in. you're right im wrong. Happy? is that what you wanted to hear? Im done, forreal, yall wont see me on this thread anymore... Congratulations

But seriously, you are completely right about the discretion, and i really do know that now... im not getting back into why i did what i did again, whatever, i know it was wrong now... but when i came to you all for help, i was nothing but humble. hostility was never displayed on my part until i was attacked and ridiculed for the things that i said and questions that i asked.. I am only human for wanting to defend myself when i am ganged up on... I really do understand how I was wrong NOW, i still dont really think that it was fair that y'all took out your hostility towards all of the other interested members on me.. I see how it can really be annoying though... Im sorry again to anyone and everyone I offended, and want to thank everyone who gave me their help... Bye (For good this time lol)

Quoted flounce for posterity.

Seriously, why am I awake.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by Little32

Seriously, why am I awake.

I know, why am I also... I guess I feel sorry for some people...

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by 2GQ4U

Im deleting all of my posts and have asked the moderator to delete the thread again, it's pointless, i dont need y'all answering questions anymore and all yall wanna do is argue... whatever lol, i give up... you're better than me because you have have your letters, are already in college (or graduated you didn't really say) and because you are in the position you want to be in. you're right im wrong. Happy? is that what you wanted to hear? Im done, forreal, yall wont see me on this thread anymore... Congratulations

But seriously, you are completely right about the discretion, and i really do know that now... im not getting back into why i did what i did again, whatever, i know it was wrong now... but when i came to you all for help, i was nothing but humble. hostility was never displayed on my part until i was attacked and ridiculed for the things that i said and questions that i asked.. I am only human for wanting to defend myself when i am ganged up on... I really do understand how I was wrong NOW, i still dont really think that it was fair that y'all took out your hostility towards all of the other interested members on me.. I see how it can really be annoying though... Im sorry again to anyone and everyone I offended, and want to thank everyone who gave me their help... Bye (For good this time lol)

WAIT--defend your comments!!! Yes, mistakes happen, but you need to LEARN from them so you can keep moving forward...

Quitting early in the "game"?

And it is NOT arguing--it is debating--one sided because you have several misconceptions and inaccuracies in your statements, nonetheless, you are not relenting or ceding your faulty logic...

Some of us have been members of our organizations for over 19 years--I think these members would know what it takes to serve in the NPHC--and what shocks me is you were mean to a particular elder member that makes ZERO logic!!! Where do you get off on yourself to do that without using the search function?

Is this a Generation Y--Millennial generation thing I am not getting? LOL...

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by 2GQ4U

Really, go back to some of my old comment if you still can, I think some of them are still quoted. I did not become hostile and defensive until I was attacked and ganged up on by the majority of the people on this board. I came here humbly asking a question and I then learned I was wrong for some of my tactics, apologized, but the verbal assault continued, so i began to defend myself. The way that I defended myself was wrong, and I often posted without thinking, but it is almost like my constant apologies for things i realized i did wrong, and thank you's to the couple people that helped me went unnoticed. And I think what I was really expecting in this situation was constructive criticism. I asked a question that was out of line, ok, I apologized, what more can I do? Are the constant "lock" comments necessary? Does someone need to question my desire to become a member? I felt that what should have happened was someone to tell me "No, that question is out of line." Even a "none of your business" would have sufficed, either one of those would have been better than some of the pointless responses that were posted. I received two offers for help from people on this board. One was from the Kappa that told me to message him (who never wrote back) and the other was from an anonymous board member, who i think never even posted in the thread, that ended up telling me everything that i needed to know and then some... other than that, there was nothing... I am successfully enrolled in college and will be attending in the fall, on a full athletic scholarship, so its not like I have Kappa dreams and am not going to college... I graduated with a 3.84 GPA and am a member of the National Honor Society, so I get my work done in the classroom... I was not concerned with the Academic requirements because I know that they will not be an issue... You are right though, I do need to work on how I take criticism because when I am put in the position where I feel I need to be defensive, I become aggressive, and nothing gets accomplished... And please believe me, I have done my research, if the answers to my question were as easy to answer as searching on Google or this site, I would never have posted... But they weren't, so I did, and I wish you would have told me "if you cannot find it, it is not your business to know" in the first place... To the elder sorority member who I have offended, I am extremely sorry, I really do mean that... I allow my attitude to overpower my mind sometimes and do not think before I speak.. But please, aside from all of the "debating" can you please give me whatever constructive criticism you feel appropriate because you really do seem like someone that I can learn a lot from... I just want to know what I should be doing so I don't ruin my chances..

Here is a great site to learn ALL about Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity, Inc. Ask them your same questions!!!

[Little32]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Here is a great site to learn ALL about Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity, Inc. Ask them your same questions!!!

Absolutely Soror! Someone should have directed this young man there a while ago. Why didn't we think of it.

I really get a kick out of the flouncers that return, and I really love it when the newbie/wannabes try to correct folks who have been on GC and in their orgs for a good while.

ETA: His posts still demonstrate that he has not learned the lessons in the first couple of pages of this thread.

ETA2: I also hope that the Kappas don't delete this thread. There is some good stuff here for someone who is willing to be quiet and read.