Blacks that rush NPC

[taurus0426]

Originally Posted by tld221

a PNM can say "omg i'm going to be a Zeta Tau Alpha," an interest can say "omg i'm going to be a Zeta Phi Beta."

just because the approach differs between NPC and NPHC doesnt make one easier than the other.

Ok so it's just different titles for the people interested depending on the conference.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by taurus0426

Dont quote me on this

Don't worry, we won't.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by taurus0426

Actually I hear the NPHC organzations are easier to get into since you decide which house you want and go from there? The NPCs I hear are the ones that pick and choose while YOU personally pick your NPHC house. Dont quote me on this I heard this somewhere else but maybe that's how it was at that school? That's pretty strange coming from NPHC?

The NPHC and NPC have two completely different recruitment and intake processes so it's like comparing apples to oranges. And I don't know who told you that the NPHC selection process was easy but you should smack them because they lied to you. And there is no such thing as selecting an NPHC house since we don't use that term and most of our chapters don't have houses. We don't do the bid thing either or any of that so trying to compare NPHC and NPC will likely confuse you if you don't have much knowledge on this topic. And you can personally pick what NPHC group you want to pursue and you can pursue that org as hard as your little heart desires and still not get selected to go thru intake. In the end, the chapter members select who they want (which doesn't mean by the way that you shouldn't do what's necessary to try and get selected).

[Elephant Walk]

It all depends on where you go and if it's common there.

I believe there has been....one? or two? mixed rushees that went through sorority rush since I've been here. Went to the same house too. To my knowledge (which obviously isn't all-encompassing as there's over...700? girls who go through rush, but I don't think we've had a fully black girl go through in a little while. Alot of other ethnicities get bids, but they also tend to go through rush in greater numbers as well.

We had the same singular black guy go through two years in a row, who got cut two straight years in a row. He's now joining a fraternity that is recently coming on.

[BabyPiNK_FL]

God honey, I know this is a confusing thing for you, but I think you're making it more complicated than it has to be. Do your research. Observe your campus culture and greek members and then decided what it is that you want. I didn't have to wrack my brain. Once I knew what I knew, I knew what to do. Make a list of pro/con if it will help, but don't go berserk. You will and can find the right place for you. And for me, race wasn't much of an issue, I just went with my heart.

[taurus0426]

Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL

God honey, I know this is a confusing thing for you, but I think you're making it more complicated than it has to be. Do your research. Observe your campus culture and greek members and then decided what it is that you want. I didn't have to wrack my brain. Once I knew what I knew, I knew what to do. Make a list of pro/con if it will help, but don't go berserk. You will and can find the right place for you. And for me, race wasn't much of an issue, I just went with my heart.

I just want to be in a house where I'm gonna feel a true connection with the other girls but I cant help but feel akward when I'm the "only one of me" pledging. I know it's really outdated but it's how I feel which isnt fair to the number of houses that could be a perfect fit either NPHC or NPC.

[BabyPiNK_FL]

Originally Posted by taurus0426

I just want to be in a house where I'm gonna feel a true connection with the other girls but I cant help but feel akward when I'm the "only one of me" pledging. I know it's really outdated but it's how I feel which isnt fair to the number of houses that could be a perfect fit either NPHC or NPC.

I have pictures with my chapter where I am the only black person in the entire photo. But I didn't care because that was where I wanted to be and they wanted me to be there. Frankly, if that would bother you even if you cared about them and they cared about you...there you go you have your answer.

[Senusret I]

I doubt it could be proven whether an NPC sorority cut a girl due to her race. Even if they did, I doubt they'd say so (assuming a chapter has to list a reason why they cut someone and send it somewhere).

Originally Posted by Senusret I

I doubt it could be proven whether an NPC sorority cut a girl due to her race. Even if they did, I doubt they'd say so (assuming a chapter has to list a reason why they cut someone and send it somewhere).

In the years I've participated in Membership Selection I've never had to list reasons why I wanted to cut a member. Without going into MS details, I do know that chapters do MS differently and some may/may not hold discussion when it comes to cutting girls...but as far as I know, everything stays within the chapter. At least that's how it's supposed to be.

[KSUViolet06]

It's impossible to say whether/not someone was cut due to race, since nothing said during MS is to leave the room. It can't even be discussed with other initiated members who were not present.

[PANTHERTEKE]

I just posed a scenario, people.

Assuming it could be proven that a PNM was cut for being Black, and it was found to be true, then that chapter would be in deep trouble.

[33girl]

The only way I think you could "prove" it is if from one day to another, it's discovered that the PNM is black and was "passing."

If someone is coming off really well in MS and getting all 6.0s (let's pretend it's ice skating) and then between one day and another, it's discovered the PNM is black (or gay, or poor, or what have you) and her scores go down to 0.5s, I think that's about the only time you could maybe prove they got cut for ____. But even then, things could have been found out (i.e. she was in an NPC at her old school, she's slept with the whole football team) that have nothing to do w/ race/orientation/status. The fact that it was discovered at the same time is a coincidence.

It may be easier to decide which NPHC you WANT to be in, solely due to mathematics - 4 vs 26, and even campuses who don't have all 26 usually have more NPCs than NPHCs - but the GETTING in definitely is not easier.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

I doubt it could be proven whether an NPC sorority cut a girl due to her race. Even if they did, I doubt they'd say so (assuming a chapter has to list a reason why they cut someone and send it somewhere).

right... and no one is going to fill out forms to their IHQ reading:

Patty PNM
membership status: denied
reason: race

maybe there's an unspoken catch-all phrase that, in disguise, alludes to such? Kind of like filing "irreconcilable differences" in divorce papers?

[AOII Angel]

I think it is pretty safe to assume that there have been instances of minorities being released from chapters simply for being minorities. You'll never get an answer on any given case, because like everyone has said, membership selection is secret. I hope that these occurances have decreased, but I am not hopeful enough to think that they don't still occur! To the OP, no one will be able to tell you how you will be received. Go through recruitment. Be yourself, and see if you feel comfortable with the members of the NPC sororities. I wish you the best of luck in finding a sisterhood who accepts you for who you are regardless of your race!

[AKA_Monet]

Wow. Do some folks heerah need to read their histories!!!

Well, as a member of the first African American Sorority to celebrate her Centennial where there will be a huge display in DC, there should be very few questions about my Sorority after this shindig. I know, we will be paying for it for YEARS to come!!!

Yes, Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. is focused on community service in the African American community--generally entrepreneurship, economics and business. Yes, we have numerous women of various cultural groups, the most famous is first lady, Eleanor Roosevelt.

If we cared about a way a person looks compared to the service they do then we would not have done our historical programs, Mississippi Health Project, Cleveland Job Corps and partnerships with Pillsbury, Daimler/Chrysler, Tyson Foods, L'oreal and numerous other organizations.

My question: Why must ANY NPHC Sorority continually be forced to prove these connections to people? It is what we do. The problems of the African American community are not solved by ignorance. And don't start me quoting stats because they are staggering.

Now join a different organization, I wish the best of luck for you. But, if you roll up in a jacket with a "line name" and "number" with letters folks are clueless about, you will get clowned in your locale.

Personally, I don't care--but, "I'd rather see a sermon that to hear one anyday..."