Gays in fraternites (pt. 2) - Page 5

PhiGam · #1 05-13-2008, 03:26 AM

Due to the nature of pledgeship and whatnot, I can understand fraternities discriminating against gays.
I personally have no problem with them as friends but wouldn't want to call one my brother.

CrackerBarrel · #2 05-13-2008, 09:52 AM

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Reason: TOS - language; "a gay"? really?

The title of the thread is "gays in fraternities." "A gay" is the singular of gays, is it not?

Also, what is the point in having this thread if everyone is just going to get all upset anytime someone posts something other than "Oh, it's wonderful to have gays in your fraternity. Great brotherhood. I wish my whole house was gay!" ????

ladylike · #3 05-13-2008, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

The title of the thread is "gays in fraternities." "A gay" is the singular of gays, is it not?

Also, what is the point in having this thread if everyone is just going to get all upset anytime someone posts something other than "Oh, it's wonderful to have gays in your fraternity. Great brotherhood. I wish my whole house was gay!" ????

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^^^LOL @ username CrackerBarrel. That's my Mom's favorite highway restaurant!

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DSTCHAOS · #4 05-13-2008, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

The title of the thread is "gays in fraternities." "A gay" is the singular of gays, is it not?

Also, what is the point in having this thread if everyone is just going to get all upset anytime someone posts something other than "Oh, it's wonderful to have gays in your fraternity. Great brotherhood. I wish my whole house was gay!" ????

This thread is for discussion. Discussion is what happened.

My opinion of homosexuality has positively evolved over the years. But I never said it was "wonderful" to have homosexuals in organizations because "wonderful" is an unnecessary value judgment. I just think that those who are dead set on prohibiting homosexuals need to stop pretending that it is "tradition" or "private organization rights to exclude" rather than prejudice. They also need to be realistic about their assumptions of homosexuality and brotherhood. They may be surprised on what they'd find if they weren't so clueless.

CrackerBarrel · #5 05-13-2008, 12:18 PM

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This thread is for discussion. Discussion is what happened.

My opinion of homosexuality has positively evolved over the years. But I never said it was "wonderful" to have homosexuals in organizations because "wonderful" is an unnecessary value judgment. I just think that those who are dead set on prohibiting homosexuals need to stop pretending that it is "tradition" or "private organization rights to exclude" rather than prejudice. They also need to be realistic about their assumptions of homosexuality and brotherhood. They may be surprised on what they'd find if they weren't so clueless.

It's not discussion if taking one side of the argument gets someone banned. Honestly, that was my question. If you are only allowed to be on one side of this argument, they might as well delete this thread, because that's not a discussion at all. That's one group of people saying "Yay gays!" and another saying that they don't want gays in their house, being called monsters and then getting banned.

DSTCHAOS · #6 05-13-2008, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

It's not discussion if taking one side of the argument gets someone banned.

You obviously haven't read this board if you think expressing a dissenting opinion is the reason for being banned.

CrackerBarrel · #7 05-13-2008, 12:22 PM

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You obviously haven't read this board if you think expressing a dissenting opinion is the reason for being banned.

Care to tell me what got those two banned if it wasn't the fact that they defended why houses shouldn't have to let gays in?

Pledgetrainer · #8 05-13-2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

It's not discussion if taking one side of the argument gets someone banned. Honestly, that was my question. If you are only allowed to be on one side of this argument, they might as well delete this thread, because that's not a discussion at all. That's one group of people saying "Yay gays!" and another saying that they don't want gays in their house, being called monsters and then getting banned.

Exactly. Exalt. I'd have to work a lot harder to get on people's nerves over at another greek forum I know well...I don't want to turn this into a "people today are too damn sensitive and PC" discussion but it's tempting.

DSTCHAOS · #9 05-13-2008, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pledgetrainer

Exactly. Exalt. I'd have to work a lot harder to get on people's nerves over at another greek forum I know well...I don't want to turn this into a "people today are too damn sensitive and PC" discussion but it's tempting.

Don't assume that anyone's nerves were gotten on. Humor was found and it was taken from there.

I'd like to turn this into a "people who assume they are offending are usually the sensitive ones" discussion.

nittanyalum · #10 05-13-2008, 09:59 AM

^^^LOL @ username CrackerBarrel. That's my Mom's favorite highway restaurant!

Pledgetrainer · #11 05-13-2008, 11:01 AM

I don't think a single fraternity where I'm at would let in a gay. P.S. - if you have an opinion that someone somewhere might take offense with, they'll ban you for it in a heartbeat. banned Southernfratter and bowsandtoes just for this thread, and they weren't even being offensive...this website is a farce. And no, neither of those was me.

Senusret I · #12 05-13-2008, 11:25 AM

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I don't think a single fraternity where I'm at would let in a gay. P.S. - if you have an opinion that someone somewhere might take offense with, they'll ban you for it in a heartbeat. banned Southernfratter and bowsandtoes just for this thread, and they weren't even being offensive...this website is a farce. And no, neither of those was me.

Awwww poor thing. Would you like us to call Al Sharpton for you? Stage a sit in against injustice?

Pledgetrainer · #13 05-13-2008, 11:36 AM

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Awwww poor thing. Would you like us to call Al Sharpton for you? Stage a sit in against injustice?

Just commenting on the environment. This is how every big forum goes down...seen several like this.

LaneSig · #14 05-13-2008, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pledgetrainer

P.S. - if you have an opinion that someone somewhere might take offense with, they'll ban you for it in a heartbeat. banned Southernfratter and bowsandtoes just for this thread, and they weren't even being offensive...this website is a farce. And no, neither of those was me.

If it's such a farce, then why come on here? Did we make you come here?

Pledgetrainer · #15 05-13-2008, 11:59 AM

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If it's such a farce, then why come on here? Did we make you come here?

I'm on here because one of them is my pledge brother and I figured I'd make a screen name and point it out while bored at work. He simply got a message that said he was banned, no reason given, and this was the only thread he'd really posted in. Other greek-related forums are considerably freer. This one might as well be controlled by the Chinese government, or possibly SigEp nationals. Ban me, delete my posts, whatever...trust me I'm not too invested in this.