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Old 03-31-2008, 10:38 PM
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i bet the misconception comes from high school and sports team "initiations" in the news in the past several years. there's also the "initiation" into high school from the movie dazed and confused. it includes a paddle for the boys, so i bet that's what a lot of people picture when they imagine initiation into a frat or sorority
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Old 04-01-2008, 10:16 AM
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Agreed.^^

Ultimately, your safety is of primary importance. If it doesn't seem right at any point, leave.

Quite possibly, it is the fear of the unknown. Trust yourself and you should be fine.
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Old 04-01-2008, 10:28 AM
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Agreed.^^

Ultimately, your safety is of primary importance. If it doesn't seem right at any point, leave.

Quite possibly, it is the fear of the unknown. Trust yourself and you should be fine.
I disagree.

I say tell anyone who will listen.

Your safety is of primary importance, but how about those who come after you? They may not be so courageous. If you fear serious injury, you can be certain that if not you, someone else will be injured by this practice.

Call your headquarters.

What is happening is not part of the ritual, it's a local tradition which needs to be eliminated.
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Old 04-01-2008, 11:32 AM
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I disagree.

I say tell anyone who will listen.

Your safety is of primary importance, but how about those who come after you? They may not be so courageous. If you fear serious injury, you can be certain that if not you, someone else will be injured by this practice.

Call your headquarters.

What is happening is not part of the ritual, it's a local tradition which needs to be eliminated.
No.

Quit if you're scared of it. If you aren't scared, don't quit. Walk out if they make you do something you don't want to. But for christsakes' don't call nationals or the university.

If people would for once take responsibility for their own actions, our insurance wouldn't be near as high. Good lord.
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Old 04-01-2008, 01:01 PM
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No.

Quit if you're scared of it. If you aren't scared, don't quit. Walk out if they make you do something you don't want to. But for christsakes' don't call nationals or the university.

If people would for once take responsibility for their own actions, our insurance wouldn't be near as high. Good lord.
Interesting. In DST if you DO NOT report hazing you could be barred from membership. We take it very seriously regardless of insurance costs.
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Old 04-01-2008, 01:30 PM
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If people would for once take responsibility for their own actions, our insurance wouldn't be near as high. Good lord.
Who should be taking responsibility for themselves? Perhaps the individuals who are committing possible felonies? Exposing their organizations to liability?

No. Reporting is not only preserving your organization's financial and moral integrity, it is also taking responsibility for yourself and others. You should feel a moral obligation to protect yourself and your fellow pledges from brutality, not to mention future pledges.

One day someone might get hurt. If you haven't reported, that's on your hands.
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Old 04-01-2008, 02:30 PM
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DSigKid states he is worried/nervous.

His post was very brief. Is this something he is creating in his mind OR does he have solid facts that hazing will occur at his initiation? These are very different situations and they would be handled quite differently.

We are all only making assumptions here and before we can give solid advice we would really need more true and complete information from him.

I stand by my statement that he does need to walk out and leave at any point if he does not feel safe. However, if he has solid information prior to initiation, there is a responsibility on his part to go forward to report this through proper channels. He should take this evidence to chapter level immediately and speak to anyone who will listen. If he does not receive the proper responses/actions taken, then he must step up to the next level.
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