Would race matter - Page 3

starang21 · #1 10-10-2007, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Crouching Rusher, Hidden Intake.....sheesh

uhhh.....

ladygreek · #2 10-10-2007, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SthrnZeta

We had a couple Asian girls in my chapter and we referred to one as the "Asian Sensation!" She embraced her nationality but also very much embraced American culture, as she was born and raised in Northern VA. She made fun of herself all the time and it was never an issue that she was "different." She was an awesome collegiate member and now she's a leader in her alum chapter. Of course we all knew she came from different origins than most of us, but it was never an issue...ever. I am proud of my diverse chapter! I think even an all white group would accept you. I'd say the only thing you need to worry about is your Junior standing - but again that depends on the school...

I don't know but referring to her as the "Asian Sensation" and she feeling the need to make fun of herself says to me that her race was an issue.

SthrnZeta · #3 10-10-2007, 10:37 AM

No GLO is going to care - even if it's an NPHC, I've seen white girls in those orgs. They may "historically" be whatever, but it's all about your beliefs and what's in your heart and if those beliefs match those of the organization you want to join.

SthrnZeta · #4 10-15-2007, 09:25 AM

L.O.C.K. · #5 10-17-2007, 01:36 AM

This thread has turned into the starang and dstchaos thread. ahahaha.

As for her making fun of herself and being the "Asian Sensation"...I know many Asian Americans would think that role really puts them into a certain category and thus not like it.

However, one person (for anything) does not speak for the group or represent the group, so whatever floats a persons boat.

And btw, APIA Greeks do have some history...

www.pialphaphi.com
www.sigmaomicronpi.com

just a couple...

www.napa-online.org

Taualumna · #6 10-17-2007, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by L.O.C.K.

This thread has turned into the starang and dstchaos thread. ahahaha.

As for her making fun of herself and being the "Asian Sensation"...I know many Asian Americans would think that role really puts them into a certain category and thus not like it.

However, one person (for anything) does not speak for the group or represent the group, so whatever floats a persons boat.

And btw, APIA Greeks do have some history...

www.pialphaphi.com
www.sigmaomicronpi.com

just a couple...

www.napa-online.org

They have under 15 chapters, unlike (most) D9s, NPCs and IFCs. I guess that makes them more exclusive, but I don't know. Knowing how some Asian parents are, I'm not too sure if your typical parent would go around saying "My son is a Pi Alpha Phi" or "My daughter is a Sigma Omicron Pi" all that much, unless these kids are legacies. People would be "wha???" People are just more familiar with D9s, NPCs and IFCs. If the immigrant family hasn't heard of these GLOs, their neighbours might.

L.O.C.K. · #7 10-19-2007, 02:35 AM

Taualumna,
I'm not sure what your point is. Where was I saying parents would go around saying those things or anything related to size and exclusivity?

I was referring to the fact that there are other options out there and that APIA Greeks also have some age.

Taualumna · #8 10-19-2007, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by L.O.C.K.

Taualumna,
I'm not sure what your point is. Where was I saying parents would go around saying those things or anything related to size and exclusivity?

I was referring to the fact that there are other options out there and that APIA Greeks also have some age.

Nowhere. But the size and exclusivity factor is based on my experience with Asian parents. I live in Toronto, where the Asian communities, particulary Chinese, is HUGE. And pride to which schools and organizations a child joins is HUGE. Just because an organization (or school, for that matter) has been around for over 80 years, doesn't mean that the parents would be proud about it, because, guess what? Mom and Dad have never heard of them. Or if they have, their friends and relatives haven't. That's why so many parents want their kids in the Ivies or other well-known schools. I'm sure that being in a historically Asian fraternity, you would know this.

DSTCHAOS · #9 10-19-2007, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by L.O.C.K.

This thread has turned into the starang and dstchaos thread. ahahaha.

As for her making fun of herself and being the "Asian Sensation"...I know many Asian Americans would think that role really puts them into a certain category and thus not like it.

*waving*

DSTCHAOS · #10 10-19-2007, 09:44 AM

I'm always humored when people predict firestorms and stuff.

So, what's so "firestormy" about what Taualumna posted?

Ch2tf · #11 10-19-2007, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I'm always humored when people predict firestorms and stuff.

So, what's so "firestormy" about what Taualumna posted?

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That's why so many parents want their kids in the Ivies or other well-known schools. I'm sure that being in a historically Asian fraternity, you would know this.

To me that statement came off wrong (my interpretation). Why is taualumna so "sure" that L.O.C.K. should "know this" coming from a historically Asian fraternity? In general in her last two statements, imo she seems to be painting Asian/Asian American parents and families as solely interested in status.

In general she still seems to be taking the stance that NPC/IFC/D9 have a monopoly on pride because they are older. And chances are that the "immigrant" family isn't at all aware of any type of GLO, especially not by name, to glean any sort of "pride" from the organization that their child is seeking to join.

DSTCHAOS · #12 10-19-2007, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Taualumna

That's why so many parents want their kids in the Ivies or other well-known schools. I'm sure that being in a historically Asian fraternity, you would know this.

To me that statement came off wrong (my interpretation). Why is taualumna so "sure" that L.O.C.K. should "know this" coming from a historically Asian fraternity? In general in her last two statements, imo she seems to be painting Asian/Asian American parents and families as solely interested in status.

In general she still seems to be taking the stance that NPC/IFC/D9 have a monopoly on pride because they are older. And chances are that the "immigrant" family isn't at all aware of any type of GLO, especially not by name, to glean any sort of "pride" from the organization that their child is seeking to join.

Gotcha. I thought she was speaking in terms of how many Asian parents perceive it and was just appealing to L.O.C.K's knowledge base as a member of an Asian fraternity (perhaps having discussed this before, etc.).

Maybe the assumption is that people equate age of the organization with deep rooted racial and ethnic traditions or something.