So is imitation really the sincerest form of flattery?

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

The edit helps. I didn't realize your calendar was set in stone like that. I can see that being a good way to help reduce overscheduling or conflicts. And no, it's not your problem. But I fail to see why people make a huge deal when an NPC sorority refuses to cooperate with an NPHC group, but not when an NPHC sorority refuses to do the same with an NPC group. If it's not your problem, then why do we hear people complaining about it all the time?

Where have folx complained about NPC not cooperating with NPHC? Serious question.

[Velocity_14]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Where have folx complained about NPC not cooperating with NPHC? Serious question.

I was just about to ask that same question...because I didn't see it...nor have I heard it....

[fantASTic]

I pointed out earlier about the COE reports; there's one group. Greek life councils get on our butts about it hardcore [on the IFC groups, too]. Even the PHC makes a point to tell us all the time to schedule things with NPHC groups. They fail to mention that it's damn near impossible.

ETA: The thing, I think, that really grinds my gears about this is that there are some women [I don't know a whole lot, so primarily AKAs] that I have met through other campus activities whom I really like. I would love to spend time with them! I have tried to get socials or something organized with them, but we never get a response from anyone. And that really sucks!

[PrettyInPink777]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

ETA: The thing, I think, that really grinds my gears about this is that there are some women [I don't know a whole lot, so primarily AKAs] that I have met through other campus activities whom I really like. I would love to spend time with them! I have tried to get socials or something organized with them, but we never get a response from anyone. And that really sucks!

I'd imagine this is really frustrating -- to reach out genuinely and get no response. What did they say when you inquired about the lack of response? What was the reason?

[Ilaria Ame]

soooo...this thread has gone way off course, but i'd just like to say that this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5K1cBBB4fw --the SGRho's with blindfolds from page 1) is so flippin fiya. that is all.

[Ilaria Ame]

ok now i have an opinion. i know it's not like this on every campus, but here's my gripe. sure, NPC/IFC and NPHC have separate events. duh. but tell me why not a DAMN group wants to have just one event per semester that incorporates everyone. i'm trying to plan unity day for october 24th (and have been since before the semester started) but no one from any org seems to be interested in getting together. nooooo onnnnneeeee. arg. not asking advice; just a comment. i'm very frustrated

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Ilaria Ame

ok now i have an opinion. i know it's not like this on every campus, but here's my gripe. sure, NPC/IFC and NPHC have separate events. duh. but tell me why not a DAMN group wants to have just one event per semester that incorporates everyone. i'm trying to plan unity day for october 24th (and have been since before the semester started) but no one from any org seems to be interested in getting together. nooooo onnnnneeeee. arg. not asking advice; just a comment. i'm very frustrated

Unity is a process.

That goes for every type of unity there is. You don't have separation and then think people are going to give a darn enough to plan an event together. If you didn't start the process before the end of September, you might not get any response from people.

[fantASTic]

That's the thing; we don't GET a response. If we do, it's nothing but, "We'll call you back." They never do.

It IS frustrating, and I appreciate that you see that. I really am sincere about wanting to do something fun with such a great group of women.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

That's the thing; we don't GET a response. If we do, it's nothing but, "We'll call you back." They never do.

It IS frustrating, and I appreciate that you see that. I really am sincere about wanting to do something fun with such a great group of women.

For your situation only:

Our undergraduate chapters are STRONLY supervised by an alumni chapter. There may be things that are going on that the undergraduate chapters must do to remain a chapter. Those are in our documents as to how Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. is governed.

If your chapter wishes to interact, your best bet is to speak to the grown adults--namely the Graduate Advisors and you organization will be required make a presentation as to what you all had in mind. Then, you all will have to expect there is a 4-6 month planning time if said event is huge...

[fantASTic]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

For your situation only:

Our undergraduate chapters are STRONLY supervised by an alumni chapter. There may be things that are going on that the undergraduate chapters must do to remain a chapter. Those are in our documents as to how Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. is governed.

If your chapter wishes to interact, your best bet is to speak to the grown adults--namely the Graduate Advisors and you organization will be required make a presentation as to what you all had in mind. Then, you all will have to expect there is a 4-6 month planning time if said event is huge...

I think you misunderstand. What we wanted to do was something FUN. Like, for example, a simple social or mixer where we could do something fun, hang out, and get to know each other. I have no idea what such a thing may be; I'm not the social chair in my chapter, and that's not my responsibility. But I'm not talking about anything big.

PrettyinPink:

Your recommendation was welcomed! I think we will just have to go with it; if we just can't get a response, maybe that is just a sign that they are not interested. I would like to do something, but I'm not going to [nor can I] force them to show up.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

I think you misunderstand. What we wanted to do was something FUN. Like, for example, a simple social or mixer where we could do something fun, hang out, and get to know each other. I have no idea what such a thing may be; I'm not the social chair in my chapter, and that's not my responsibility. But I'm not talking about anything big.

PrettyinPink:

Your recommendation was welcomed! I think we will just have to go with it; if we just can't get a response, maybe that is just a sign that they are not interested. I would like to do something, but I'm not going to [nor can I] force them to show up.

Are the AKAs aware of the pressure you are getting from the school? If so maybe they question your sincerity. I agree that a sit-down heart-to-heart talk may be in order. Have your campus advisor talk to their campus advisor.

[fantASTic]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Are the AKAs aware of the pressure you are getting from the school? If so maybe they question your sincerity. I agree that a sit-down heart-to-heart talk may be in order. Have your campus advisor talk to their campus advisor.

I have no idea. Perhaps that would be a good solution.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

I think you misunderstand. What we wanted to do was something FUN. Like, for example, a simple social or mixer where we could do something fun, hang out, and get to know each other. I have no idea what such a thing may be; I'm not the social chair in my chapter, and that's not my responsibility. But I'm not talking about anything big.

PrettyinPink:

Your recommendation was welcomed! I think we will just have to go with it; if we just can't get a response, maybe that is just a sign that they are not interested. I would like to do something, but I'm not going to [nor can I] force them to show up.

Being the optimist, as another poster alluded to, it could be that there are some internal goings-on in the chapter that precludes them from socializing with you at this particular time that has nothing to do with you. At this juncture, unless you get evidence to the contrary, don't take it personal.

But don't give up either. Try again next semester.

[1908Revelations]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

Why can't you join us in something that we do? Do we have to put in 90% of the effort? Because that's what it sounds like you're saying.

Like others have said we plan stuff far in advance. We (at my school) have been asked to participate with a couple of NPCs and IFCs, but with all of our internal stuff (corporate, regional, cluster) we can not budget any more time. If they do schedule something else I will not be able to attend due to having to so things for me, church, school, and AKA. Not every member will be at every event (for any org)so we have to take that into account too.

Hopefully you can plan for something in the spring semester. YOu may want to speak with the Graduate Advisor, President, and/or Vice President.



BTW this week is Iota Phi service week please see the Facebook group named 'AKA Service Week'....this is at UAB. We had a really great turnout for Meals on Wheels and I missed the Red Cross speaker due to class.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

I think you misunderstand. What we wanted to do was something FUN. Like, for example, a simple social or mixer where we could do something fun, hang out, and get to know each other. I have no idea what such a thing may be; I'm not the social chair in my chapter, and that's not my responsibility. But I'm not talking about anything big.

PrettyinPink:

Your recommendation was welcomed! I think we will just have to go with it; if we just can't get a response, maybe that is just a sign that they are not interested. I would like to do something, but I'm not going to [nor can I] force them to show up.

No, I understood what you meant. And I will say again, all Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. undergraduate chapters must have their "official" activities approved by the Graduate Advisor(s) and the Graduate Advisory Council. Those are in my Sorority's internal documents.

If you want to hangout and it is not a school night, then by all means go to a "Gameworks", "Dave and Busters" or "Jillians" for a fun day or your campus' recreational center.

The key is the professors at my graduate school started providing extra credit if students attended the seminars presented by the Undergrad Chapters. Most seminars are on simple stuff like avoiding alcohol infractions and police interactions; date-rape; breast cancer, etc. The afterward, the undergrads would hangout somewhere.

I KNOW this because I was graduate advisor. I am telling you these are our rules...