2007 UGA Recruitment

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by cluelessUGAmom

Ok. But why would someone who ISP not be able to be a QA? What if they were the "next" on the list?

If she only lists one, she has to be on the regular bid matching list. Remember if the group really wanted her to be in their new member class, they could place her number one on their list. If she's on the second or third list, they want her, but she's extra if they get their first choices.

She CAN'T be a quota addition if she ISP because by the very definition of who gets them, she wouldn't have maximized her options. The big risk of ISPing is that you limit yourself to only getting one group through regular bid matching. It should only be used by girls who know they want that one choice or nothing.

Again, I understand that from your perpective, it seems like a system that matched everyone to her first choice is desirable, but that's not how the system works. NPC policies are designed to keep the groups relatively the same size.

If all a girl had to do was get to prefs, and then she was guaranteed a bid to her first choice even if she only listed them, it would be a big problem in terms of some groups tripling in size while others got few new members. It would throw the idea of quota out the window.

[jwright25]

Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum

If she doesn't list them on the pref cards (ISP, suiciding, not maximizing), as I understand it, she can still COB.

She just can't be a quota addition at the time of bid matching.

That is correct. As I learned earlier in this thread, some campuses have additional rules about snap bidding (UGA doesn't allow dropouts to be snapped), but NPC doesn't make a distinction about that.

As long as a woman does not match to a chapter she lists on her pref card, she is eligible for COB. If she accepts a bid to a chapter via COB, she will sign a bid with the Greek office. That is the same as signing a pref card, and if she drops out prior to initiation, she must wait a year to join another sorority - same as if she matched during formal recruitment.

[SoCalGirl]

I think QA could be a huge problem where PNMs attending Pref overlap the same 4-5 chapters. Those chapters would continue to pick extra girls year after year and other chapters would be shut out.

[estherjb]

At last I can post! My registration request never reached my work email so I couldn't post last week as I read all the entries and replies Wow, what a difference almost thirty years makes.

Now to the pent up vent. What has happened to courtesy during rush? I wrote a rec for a girl who was outstanding academically, was captain of a varsity team and 4 year team member, greek family, cute, great wardrobe, no tats or piercings, blah blah blah, and she was cut after first round by my sorority. Are there so many girls going through rush now that sororities have their favorites picked out before rush begins? I wonder now if I should have sent her rec in the Spring.

Had a very different experience with a rec I sent to MSU (which is smaller, granted). Sent the rec, had a nice postcard from the reference chairman saying it had been received, and they would extend her every courtesy. She actually got a bid from them. Snaps to their system, and advisors.

If alum advisors are reading this, this experience makes me wonder why I bother to write references at all. The other girls I have sent them in for all pledged other sororities but I assumed it was because they didn't want mine. From this girl, who is a friend, I find out she was cut after first round? How many times has this happened before? My sorority was good at Georgia, but when I was there we would never have had the luxury of cutting a girl like this unless she had a QR (you old timers know that phrase, I don't think there's any such thing now) and this girl did not have a bad reputation.

If chapters want alums to respond when they send requests for financial support they should extend the courtesy of keeping us in the loop of chapter activities like rush. No contact about if they received my rec, who was pledged, who was a legacy, anything. And this in the day of email.

I warned you in the title this was a vent and I'm sorry to be so negative but I'm irritated and disappointed with what this girl has experienced and the longing she has to "belong" when her other friends are going off on sorority weekends and wearing their sorority gear and she is left out. What a great way to start your freshman year of college.

I think Georgia should do what many other schools have done and put rush off till Winter Semester so these rushees have their feet on the ground before experiencing the rejection of rush.