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10-09-2007, 01:52 PM
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My guess is that the steering committee at the time Ole Miss was trying to charter a chapter didn't want PBK's national officers to see something that might be construed as frivolous and an indication that the school didn't take academics seriously.
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Exactly. Totally agree with you LXA SE285.
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10-20-2010, 10:37 AM
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OleMissGlitter, your pictures of the Bama houses and the DGs' thread about returning to Bama raised a question for me. The conventional wisdom about expansion at Ole Miss, I believe, has been that ADPi and ZTA aren't realistic options because they were previously on campus and closed, and PNMs would hold that history against a recolonized chapter of those groups.
But DG closed at Bama, and apparently there's multistate excitement about their return, students thinking about transferring, a DG tailgate and presence at Homecoming, etc.
So what makes the difference between these two campuses that have a similar Panhellenic reputation? Is it simply because the ADPi and ZTA departures from Ole Miss were more recent than the DG departure from Bama? Does the conventional wisdom about recolonizing at Ole Miss need to be re-thought? Or is there a real difference in the institutional memory, if you will, of PNMs at the two campuses?
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DG left UA in 1978. The ADPi and ZTA chapters at UM closed in the late 1990s. WORLD of difference. Not only is it 20 years apart, but the UM chapters closed recently enough ago that you can probably still find info (newspaper articles, etc) on it online.
That's just touching on things that would be true of ANY school.
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10-20-2010, 11:41 AM
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DG left UA in 1978. The ADPi and ZTA chapters at UM closed in the late 1990s. WORLD of difference. Not only is it 20 years apart, but the UM chapters closed recently enough ago that you can probably still find info (newspaper articles, etc) on it online.
That's just touching on things that would be true of ANY school.
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Exactly what 33girl said.
Side note: However, I will say ZTA has a very strong North MS Alumnae Chapter. They are a co-sponsor of Ole Miss Panhellenic's Care Walk. They are also strong at Mississippi State. Delta Zeta was here from '28-'53 so they might be a good choice, although I'm not sure what their alumnae numbers are like in North Mississippi. Alpha Xi Delta was here shortly from '71-'76. I believe they have a good number of alumnae in Memphis. The biggest challenge no matter which chapter was picked,(and this is all IF Panhellenic ever votes to open for extension) is going to be housing. Money for a competitive house is a must. Ole Miss is not the type of campus where a new sorority could say, "Well we won't have housing because we want to be different and PNMs will like us better because our dues won't be as high. It simple won't work." You could say that while the chapter is being established but a competitive house must be in the plans.
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10-20-2010, 08:41 PM
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Exactly what 33girl said.
Side note: However, I will say ZTA has a very strong North MS Alumnae Chapter. They are a co-sponsor of Ole Miss Panhellenic's Care Walk. They are also strong at Mississippi State. Delta Zeta was here from '28-'53 so they might be a good choice, although I'm not sure what their alumnae numbers are like in North Mississippi. Alpha Xi Delta was here shortly from '71-'76. I believe they have a good number of alumnae in Memphis. The biggest challenge no matter which chapter was picked,(and this is all IF Panhellenic ever votes to open for extension) is going to be housing. Money for a competitive house is a must. Ole Miss is not the type of campus where a new sorority could say, "Well we won't have housing because we want to be different and PNMs will like us better because our dues won't be as high. It simple won't work." You could say that while the chapter is being established but a competitive house must be in the plans.
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The housing issue was what I have been led to believe was one of the reasons Delta Zeta was chosen to come to campus this next year. They have their own housing corporation and have guaranteed they will build a house (suitable land being found of course), and that may not have been financially possible for other groups who had expressed interest in coming to Idaho.
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10-21-2010, 05:09 AM
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I think the housing (=money) issue plays a much bigger role in expansion than a lot of us would otherwise guess. With boatloads of cash even the most crowded campus could be cracked. But this is why we let (what I fondly call, and have lately become) the old broads make the decisions. They, hopefully, are more practical.
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10-21-2010, 09:53 AM
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Thanks for the info. It sounds like it could be possible for these groups to return to Ole Miss in the long run, but not for another 20 years or so. Good luck to all of this year's PNMs!
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10-21-2010, 10:25 AM
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Any news on how recruitment is going so far at Ole Miss? Bid Day is Sunday, yes?
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10-21-2010, 10:36 AM
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Here's what my son told me...
"We had convocation and they told us the rules. If we skip class to go to a party, we get kicked out of rush. If we trash talk the fraternities, we get kicked out of rush. We go to some parties tomorrow night."
I'm sure that's the kind of information you were waiting for, right.
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10-21-2010, 10:45 AM
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That's all I heard from my son too! The daughters gave reams of information. The son, nada --and come to think of it, his dad was the same way when he moved our 4th daughter into her dorm. I wanted details and all he could come up with was that he saw 4 girls in matching Greek shirts who looked like the Front Four for the Falcons.
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10-21-2010, 10:54 AM
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Here's what my son told me...
"We had convocation and they told us the rules. If we skip class to go to a party, we get kicked out of rush. If we trash talk the fraternities, we get kicked out of rush. We go to some parties tomorrow night."
I'm sure that's the kind of information you were waiting for, right. 
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Love it! I'm sure he is having a blast!
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10-24-2010, 08:51 PM
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^^^Has Ole Miss had upperclass. quota in the past? It seems like this is the first year I can remember them having it.
Either way, I think it's great that some upperclassmen get a shot at sorority life in such a competitive recruitment.
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10-24-2010, 09:12 PM
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^^^Has Ole Miss had upperclass. quota in the past? It seems like this is the first year I can remember them having it.
Either way, I think it's great that some upperclassmen get a shot at sorority life in such a competitive recruitment.
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This is the first year they have had upperclassmen quotas. Panhellenic voted and added it to their rules about a month ago. I think they modeled it after Alabama and other SEC schools with upperclassmen quotas.
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Huge Pledge Classes
Univ. of Mississippi is not the only university with large new member classes. This year Univ. of Arkansas NPC chapters had a quota of 101!
I agree. These classes are huge.
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10-24-2010, 09:59 PM
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This is the first year they have had upperclassmen quotas. Panhellenic voted and added it to their rules about a month ago. I think they modeled it after Alabama and other SEC schools with upperclassmen quotas.
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Great! I'm so glad to hear this. I remember Zillini in a Bama' thread highly recommending the upperclassman quota for any school with a very competitive sorority recruitment. And Ole Miss certainly qualifies there! I'm so glad Ole Miss is helping to level the playing field more for many fine young ladies!! I'd figured it eventually would. Congratulations to all who were able to find a new home today!!
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