"You'll end up where you were meant to"...

[LSUgrrl126]

A.) Truthfully, I was cut from every single sorority. All 10. There were no "top houses" in my opinion, they were all great. I did not cut ANYONE.

B.) Extracurriculars? Hobbies? Hell, I'll email you my resume...I am most certainly not lacking in that department. Can you join a choir in the middle of the year? No.

C.) At LSU, all 10 chapters have this rule. Greek Affairs confirmed this, along with alums who personally called the chapters. I'm not exaggerating.

D.) I did not know that LSU rush was so difficult, I thought all schools were like this. Obviously I had not visited GC prior to rush.

If I missed something here and you want the answer, feel free to ask.

[James]

Great Resume means high gPA and alll kinds of activities I guess . . ..

Are you flaky? Like over sensitive, easily offended, high strung, and it shows in conversations? Are you less aesthetically pleasing to look at than the average mainstream ideal?

Are you medicated for depression anxiety disorders?

There are a lot of intangible reasons why you can get cut other than how you look on a piece of paper.

It would be like auditioning a potentianl boyfriend or girlsfriend . . . their resume looks awesome, but there was something about them you didn't like enough to want to date.

Maybe they were flighty, overly stressed, or not good enough looking.

[sheisdiscrete]

Originally posted by BearyCuteAPhi
One can never know what to expect. All we can do is go through recruitment with an open mind and by being your true self. That way whatever happens you know you were yourself and if they did not offer you a bid, you probably didn't belong there anyway.

Ronnie

I'm really glad that you said that. I just went through rush because a lot of my "greek friends" told me that I should go through with it only to find out that I ended up bidless. I was sad; I cried my eyes out and questioned myself but I was like being rejected or turned down by someone isn't the end of life so I got up and moved on cuz life goes on. If they wanted to invite me back then they would but everything happens for a reason....

[alphaalpha]

This is just a thought that i had. Maybe LSUGRRL getting cut from every sorority was where she was meant to be in the sence that she could open a local and provide a new sorority for the women on the LSU campus. ????

I am just saying this cause if i were in her position that is what i would do. i don't really take "rejection" well and I would fight for what i wanted. If i had wanted to join a sorority and got cut from every single one and could not join a sorority. I would take the perverbial bull by the horns and start my own local sorority.

just my 2 cents.
debbie

[PhoenixAzul]

Originally posted by alphaalpha
This is just a thought that i had. Maybe LSUGRRL getting cut from every sorority was where she was meant to be in the sence that she could open a local and provide a new sorority for the women on the LSU campus. ????

I am just saying this cause if i were in her position that is what i would do. i don't really take "rejection" well and I would fight for what i wanted. If i had wanted to join a sorority and got cut from every single one and could not join a sorority. I would take the perverbial bull by the horns and start my own local sorority.

just my 2 cents.
debbie

Exactly. This is what my friend is doing here at OC. She was cut from all the houses after novelty round, and she was pretty bummed. She ended up bidless. But after being upset for a while, she realized that it wasnt that they didn't like her, it's that she just didn't fit. So she's creating (refounding actually!) a new sorority, and she said to me the other day, "I'm so glad I didn't get a bid, refounding Arkady (rho kappa delta) is going to be my legacy."

[alphaalpha]

To continue with the You'll end up where you were meant to be idea. I have to say that personally it is in my personallity that i want to be in charge and so staring a new sorority would be more fitting to my personallity. I have to say that i do not fit into a lot of places cause I already have lots of leadership and don't do well in an environment where I can't be in leadership.

I choose my group cause it was small and i could take a leadership position right away. Actually it was hard for me to wait until after my pledge period was over cause it ended up being like 9 weeks (long story as to why), but i was dying to actually get in charge of something. Maybe its just me, but if i got cut from every sorority and i knew that there were 100 women going bidless, i would walk right up to the greeklife office and talk to someone about starting a new local sorority. But maybe that is just me and my wacky personality.

[kddani]

Originally posted by LSUgrrl126
A.) Truthfully, I was cut from every single sorority. All 10. There were no "top houses" in my opinion, they were all great. I did not cut ANYONE.

Then why in your other thread did you say, "and I have it narrowed down to 4 out of 10 that I'd accept a bid from." Sorry. With an attitude like that, no sympathy here. Just like maybe you didn't get your chance to make your best impression on them, maybe those other 6 houses didn't get a chance to make the best impression or maybe you didn't give them a chance to.

B.) Extracurriculars? Hobbies? Hell, I'll email you my resume...I am most certainly not lacking in that department. Can you join a choir in the middle of the year? No.

You've been in school since the beginning of the fall semester. What have you done with your life since there? Once you're in college, HS activities mean jack. You said in your other thread, "I've been looking for other student organizations, but nothing has really sparked my interest that I've seen."

And you said it's no fair, what if someone's the perfect girl and they get cut because they didn't know anyone? Doesn't seem like you've done anything to get to know anyone. If you had gotten to know some people. There are a ton of activities that you can join at anytime. Make yourself more well rounded. Try something new. Maybe you're not as perfect as you think.

[QUOTE] C.) At LSU, all 10 chapters have this rule. Greek Affairs confirmed this, along with alums who personally called the chapters. I'm not exaggerating. [/QUOTE}

Ummm... you had alumnae call the chapters personally? Did you not believe Greek Life on your own? Do you know how stalkerish that looks?

D.) I did not know that LSU rush was so difficult, I thought all schools were like this. Obviously I had not visited GC prior to rush.

Obviously you didn't do your homework. Not even necessarily visiting GC, but talking to people who go to LSU or went there or making some effort to find out what's involved. That's no one's fault but your own.

If I missed something here and you want the answer, feel free to ask.

Nope, thanks, i think I got most of the answers.

[ADPi Conniebama]

I did not mean to get on LSUgirl or anyones case . . I mean that must suck to get cut by every single sorority or greek organization . . (I still don't feel bad if you get "cut" by some "great 1st choice" sorority) but if that is the case at LSU - that they have 10 strong Sororities, that all make quota, and are all flawless then yippee for them that must be a strong panhellenic chapter too.

All of those sororities must really work together more then any other university in this country just to keep "undesirables" out. OF COURSE I AM BEING SARCASTIC. I am about to check out LSU's greek life to see if what she is talking about is true because all of that doesnt add up.

Panhellenically Yours
Connie

[CarolinaDG]

It seems like if what you're saying is true, and there are 100+ girls getting cut, it's time to expand (not to start any rumors as I know nothing more than what I hear on these boards about LSU). Maybe what was "meant to be" is being a founding sister of a new group your junior/senior year after you've already done some things on campus. Just a thought.

[LSUgrrl126]

Originally posted by kddani
Then why in your other thread did you say, "and I have it narrowed down to 4 out of 10 that I'd accept a bid from."

This is what I said AFTER rush was over. AFTER I had met the girls and given them all equal chances.

Doesn't seem like you've done anything to get to know anyone.
If you had gotten to know some people.

What? You have NO IDEA how many new people I've met during one semester at LSU. Even though I've become good friends with many Greeks (and non-Greeks for that matter), it still doesn't change the rule that they can't reconsider me for membership.

Maybe you're not as perfect as you think.

I never said I was perfect. I've never thought that I was perfect. Why do you assume these things?

Ummm... you had alumnae call the chapters personally? Did you not believe Greek Life on your own? Do you know how stalkerish that looks?

For your information, I did NOT have any alumnae call the chapters personally. These alums voluntarily called the chapters themselves because they were going to write me recs. Then they suggested that I called Greek Affairs to see if every chapter has this policy.

Obviously you didn't do your homework. Not even necessarily visiting GC, but talking to people who go to LSU or went there or making some effort to find out what's involved. That's no one's fault but your own.

I did do my homework. I was simply under the impression that LSU's rush was just as competitive as everyone else's. I made plenty of effort, even moreso than my friends. You have no right to tell me that I made no effort and automatically assume things about me that are not true. Maybe you should come to LSU, rush and see how many invitations you get with your attitude.



Connie: None of this is in writing on the Greek Affairs website. LSU's NPC Advisor told me this over the telephone. I asked her why it was not in writing on their website and she said that she didn't "really think it was necessary."

[sugar and spice]

LSUgrrl -- I understand what you're saying, and I don't really blame you for it. You're right that it's not fair that these chapters have a cut-once, cut-always policy (which I'm 99 percent sure is a local decision and not a national one). Here is the problem with what you're saying: a lot of the women on GC belong to smaller chapters at their respective schools, and even those who didn't have friends who are. As a non-Greek, you don't really understand the issues that smaller chapters face. We do -- which is why so many GC-ers get annoyed with any post that insinuates you're not giving all the chapters a chance.

Personally, I think they're making a leap when they assume that you've decided against those four chapters because they're "not good enough for you," when it's just as possible that you decided not to pursue them because you found out they hazed or something.

But here is what it comes down to: you have every right to cut chapters based on whether or not they fit your personality. And those chapters, in return, have every right to cut you if they feel that you don't fit in with them. It's quite possible that you really are a great girl that fell through the cracks. We hear a lot about that at LSU. And you're right -- if that's the case, it's not fair that you can't rush again. Unfortunately, there are a lot of things out there that are not fair, and you can either complain about it or you can do something to fix it:

1) If you really feel that your college career is going to be incomplete without going Greek, you can transfer to a school with a less competitive rush, or
2) You can make the most of your college experience at LSU by joining other groups, making friends in the dorms, and forgetting about Greek life. I went early alum in my sorority, so I'm still in college but no longer an active member. Are things totally different now that I don't do rush or the mixer thing? Definitely. But if I had to make the decision again, I would make the same one. Being outside of the Greek system this year has freed up a lot of time to do other things that I'm interested in and meet people I would have never met otherwise. I wouldn't trade that for anything.

We understand that certain policies at LSU are unfair. But we can't change these policies, and neither can you. And there are definitely some advantages to not going Greek, and I'm sure that if you stay at LSU you'll find out what they are. But first you need to let go of the regret of not being in a sorority. It's in the past -- the only thing you're doing now is making yourself miserable by stressing out about what could have been. It's not that worth it.

[wear-a-kite-LSU]

I JUST REALIZED THIS WAS BUMPED. HAHAH. IM SOOOO SORRY

Ok. First let me say I appologize, I haven't read this whole thread (I have too short of an attention span) but I figured someone from LSU just HAD to weigh in on this.

its not as rare as you think to be cut by all ten at LSU. some girls fall through the cracks.

Again I haven't read everthing so sorry if I am being contrary or redundant. I used sugar and spice's post as a guideline because she seemed to hit the higlights of this issue

First of all, not all chapters at LSU have a 'cut-once cut-always' policy. I know for a fact that certain chapters are allowed to reconsider and certain chapters are not. I have a friend dropped from every house in fall, who rushed in spring and was allowed to go back to certain houses. I also know this to be true per conversations with our Greek Life advisor. LSU will never official say weather or not this is true or not, because they don't want any one to 'hold them to it' because it is up to each chapters discretion weather or not to reconsider.

Although as far as LSU is concerned it is at each chapters discression, girls from the 'cut-once cut-always' chapters have told me that these rules are either passed down from nationals, or are a chapter rule (differs from house to house). I will not name names but a girl from XYZ told me her house could not reconsider due to a national rule (but then again it could be a local rule and she was simply misinformed)

To be perfectly honest, most chapters at LSU are about the same size... With the exception of the one local sorority we have on campus the '10' sororities at LSU (considering only PHC social sororities) are all pretty much the same size (or the size different isnt enough to notice, in my opinion)

I totally understand LSUgrrl not feeling like she would consider 6 of our houses. She has to my knowledge had the oppurtunity to meet girls in every house and figure out who she would click with. This is perhaps the biggest challenge for a PNM who has rushed before. Keeping an open mind is one thing for a high school senior but for someone who has met a couple girls from each house, in a casual setting, its tough.

I will say, that counting out SIX houses is extreme. I could understand finding two or three all wrong for you, but after only meeting a few girls (probably in class or at a bar) counting out more than half of all of these national organizations is silly.

I hope you wont switch schools to go greek. LSU is amazing and if you can't be happy with SIX houses at LSU what are the odds you'll like any houses at ULL or Southeastern.

If you can't find ANYTHING at LSU that interests you except 4 'top' sororities, than maybe its not LSU thats the problem...LSU has hundreds of clubs and organizations to be involved in. PLUS i guareentee every house even your 'top 4' want well rounded girls who dont spend all their time at the house.

"We understand that certain policies at LSU are unfair. But we can't change these policies, and neither can you. '
Sugar and Spice hit the nail on the head with that one.You have to work with the system because trust me, its somewhat set in stone.


And there are definitely some advantages to not going Greek, and I'm sure that if you stay at LSU you'll find out what they are. But first you need to let go of the regret of not being in a sorority. It's in the past -- the only thing you're doing now is making yourself miserable by stressing out about what could have been. It's not that worth it.[/quote]

[ThetaDancer]

^^^ Just so you know, LSUgrrl's post is from 2005.

ETA: Ooops! I just read the top of your post where you realized it had been bumped.

[AlphaFrog]

Time for another bump.

[LionTamer]

This reminds me of a weird rush incident. At the time, there were 16 sororities and we seemed to be a lot of great PNMs' "safety" sorority - we always had a 3 crowded preference parties, but ended up losing so many of our favorites to the "top 3".

So it was our last pref party, I was tired and cranky, and I knew that the next day, most of my favorite girls would be going elsewhere.

I sat down next to a lovely girl, poised, beautiful voice, perfect posture, perfect hair, perfect makeup, and holding a yellow and red carnation and a little booklet with a kite on the cover, clearly indicating where she had visited before us (I won't mention what two other sororities were involved Note to youngsters: Back in the day, you were allowed to give PNMs small gifts - nothing valuable - tokens like flowers, hand-made booklets, etc.)

Anyway, she said "I have no idea how I'm going to make this choice. It's really going to be tough!"

OK. That was it. I'd had it.

I looked her right in the eye and, dripping sarcasm, I said "Oh, you know exactly where you want to go. Don't torture yourself, just go with your gut write down your favorite and leave it at that. You'll end up where you were meant to go."

The next day, much to my horror, there she was, in our suite. She came right over to me, hugged me and said "Thank you so much! I knew I wanted to go ASA, but everyone kept telling me different things. So I followed your advice, and you're right! It was easy!"

Thank God sarcasm goes right over some people's heads. And yes, of course she ended up as chapter President at some point, blah, blah, blah.