How do u feel about gays and lesbians joining a greek letter organization?

[starang21]

Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
I agree but can you seperate someone's sexuality from their person? Meaning, while I wouldn't judge someone solely on their sexuality I wouldn't try to ignore it either.

like i said....as ignorant as it may be, people who disagree vehemently with the lifestyle itself won't differentiate. especially with fraternity members who are many times extremely and sometimes overly masculine....they won't turn a blind eye to that as opposed to something else.

[RACooper]

Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
I agree but can you seperate someone's sexuality from their person? Meaning, while I wouldn't judge someone solely on their sexuality I wouldn't try to ignore it either.

You can't ignore someones sexuality, as it is a part of what makes them who they are - what they chose to do with what they are is another matter.

In the majority of cases I do seperate sexual orientation from a person's character (although we've all met those people - straight, bi, or gay whose character is their sexuality and thats all the character they have). I guess I do this because in part I don't view sexual orientation as a choice but rather a biological expression.... now how someone conducts themselves in regards to their sexuality I will judge, as that to me usually is a fine indicator of character.

[MaMaBuddha]

Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
Hmmm...

I think there is a misconception that hetreosexuals don't make their sexuality known. It's a form of privilege, in my opinion. We live in a society where being hetrosexual is the norm and majority so we don't have to shout from the rooftops that we are hetrosexual.

righto!

one joins an organization for the ideal and principals, not for the single social scene.

i do respect those that disagreed with homosexuality, but in the old thread i agree with sistergreek AKA2D

and i quote:

REGARDING HOMOSEXUALS: I'm not knocking it for those who are, it's your business what your preference(s) is/are. But the thing we have to realize is HOW many homosexuals have we gripped, hugged, stepped, or locked up with and don't even know it? Let me break it down even more, what about our friends that we have done all of that with who are gay/lesbian and we don't even know about it? Will that affect our image of them? (that's another subject...lol) Shucks, the leaders of our organizations could be gay/lesbian, who knows?



this is has been the most sensable thing i read ever on greekchat.

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by MaMaBuddha
righto!

one joins an organization for the ideal and principals, not for the single social scene.

i do respect those that disagreed with homosexuality, but in the old thread i agree with sistergreek AKA2D

and i quote:

REGARDING HOMOSEXUALS: I'm not knocking it for those who are, it's your business what your preference(s) is/are. But the thing we have to realize is HOW many homosexuals have we gripped, hugged, stepped, or locked up with and don't even know it? Let me break it down even more, what about our friends that we have done all of that with who are gay/lesbian and we don't even know about it? Will that affect our image of them? (that's another subject...lol) Shucks, the leaders of our organizations could be gay/lesbian, who knows?



this is has been the most sensable thing i read ever on greekchat.

And there you have it.

[luminarysoul]

i think the most important quality in a brother or sister of a GLO is Dedication. If you are devoted to your affiliation you sexual orientation should never matter. and its ironic this topic got posted because my friend from clark recently told me that him and his LB had an "experiences" recently. but out in the open they are the "ladies men". so you never know who is doing what. all that matters IMO is that the person remember they are apart of XYC and they uphold the duties they pledged for

[Marie]

Originally posted by PrettyZeta4
i'm not saying you should "only" join organizations with other gay people. (and in my next comment i'm only speaking of openly gay individuals) but why join an organization and then get upset or have your feelings hurt when everyone doesn't embrace you or accept your choice of lifestyle when you can join an organization with common views. and when i say openly gay, i'm speaking of individuals that wear their sexual prefence on their arm. i'm hetrosexual but i don't shout it from the mountain tops.

and in my comments and opinions, i do not mean to offend or upset anyone....these are just my personal views

Wouldn't this be somewhat similar to saying that African Americans should only join BGLOs? The same argument could be made that "predominately white" org members shouldn't vote for blacks b/c they could join an org. where members have common views rather than joining one where feelings might get hurt when you aren't fully embraced.

Also, I understand that these are just your thoughts and feelings, so I'm not trying to "come at you". I just have questions.

[SweetAngelZeta]

I dont think that its a problem as far as membership goes.

It doesnt make them any less of a person or pledgee.

I think that as long as someone is willing to work for what they want and continue to work during their membership then i think its cool.

thats like, not letting black people into ADPi or soething like that.

We need to stop this discrimination before it kills us.

[Shortfuse]

As long as they represent the high ideals of my org. I don't have a problem.

But they must respect the fact that other brothers/sisters might not want to hang out with them. Heck not everybody in your org is going to like you for one reason or another. Just like straight members should respect the feelings of others in the org. ,they have to realize that not everybody is going to vibe with that.

But if a man is willing to work for Sigma then I welcome him.

I think the problem is that there's a misconception along the lines that a gay member is automatically joining to bone every brother/sister in the chapter and that's just isn't true.

You don't have to have sex to be homosexual. Being gay/lesbian is strictly about the gender you prefer to hold a "romantic" relationship with. They're not out to screw every guy/girl they meet. What alot of people who are against it seem to feel that most gays/lesbians can seperate the org from their "lust".


Just my 19.14 cents. hope it was well spent.

[Boom_Quack13]

I don't he a problem with lesbian sorors. They are still sorors.
However, I would have a huuuuuuge problem if a transgender individual wanted to join. I also think that if a soror decides to "become a man," she should be expelled from Delta.

[Rho_Rho]

Originally posted by Boom_Quack13
I don't he a problem with lesbian sorors. They are still sorors.
However, I would have a huuuuuuge problem if a transgender individual wanted to join. I also think that if a soror decides to "become a man," she should be expelled from Delta.

Ooo that's deep. I never thought about a transgender person wanting to join a GLO. I don't think I would be comfortable with that either. I think Imma have to agree with my sistergreek on this one. If a soror changes her gender and becomes a man then she's not a soror anymore.....at least not to me.

[Pearls4Life]

And you a fine brother too....let me just put that out there!


I could care less what they like as a lover, just help me shop for some shoes! I personally have too much to do to worry bout, Jackie or Jordan, lets just keep busy and do this community service,if we blind fold folks....they'd all seem the same...so.....'

Lets "BE" about our greek business and not "IN" someones business.

[PeroKKPSIde]

i dont care about having a gay brother as liong as he does the work and doesnt try to hit on me.......but on another note there is a gay male frat and a gay female frat. I saw a group of both in a mall in atlanta when i went to the honda battle of the bands...the males were Gamma Alpha Psi and their colors were hot pink and purple.... and the females were Lambda Epsilon Sigma and their colord were baby blue and brown

[OneBadZeta02]

I am a proud member of Zeta Phi Beta Sorority Inc and I happen to be a lesbian as well. My sorors at Virginia Union University were very open and loving towards me and several other lesbian members in our chapter. They never once made me feel uncomfortable about my sexual preference. As a matter of fact, they have met my partner and they treat her like a sister as well. The best thing is my frat <Lambda - hey babies!> were the most accepting! They didn't try to hit on me or disrespect me or my partner. That's why I LOVE my sorority!