Dual Memberships

[tld221]

Originally Posted by Sugar08

I know of a couple of Pike colonists at Howard who are now proud members of the reactivation KAPsi line.

I believe they got around the rules because of the differences between a colony and a chapter.

Or something.

hmm, how did i miss this! bwhahaha
(i would LOVE to facebook them heehee)

[Sugar08]

Originally Posted by tld221

hmm, how did i miss this! bwhahaha
(i would LOVE to facebook them heehee)

Lol... Ok, so I did, and a cursory FB search shows that 11 men list Pi Kappa Alpha in their profile as their "residence," and only one of those men is a current student. IIRC, there were ~55 members of the colony initially.

There are 29 men who list Kappa Alpha Psi as their residence... and more who list it under activities/interests.

I don't know how many went from Pike to KAPsi, but I do know that a large number of the Pike colonists no longer associate themselves with the organization.

[mccoyred]

Originally Posted by Sugar08

Lol... Ok, so I did, and a cursory FB search shows that 11 men list Pi Kappa Alpha in their profile as their "residence," and only one of those men is a current student. IIRC, there were ~55 members of the colony initially.

There are 29 men who list Kappa Alpha Psi as their residence... and more who list it under activities/interests.

I don't know how many went from Pike to KAPsi, but I do know that a large number of the Pike colonists no longer associate themselves with the organization.

So this phenomenon negates some other threads on here.
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ht=pike+howard
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ht=pike+howard
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...pike%2C+howard

[ealymc]

Please forgive me if already covered, but there has been little talk regarding denouncing your letters in an IFC fraternity and going through intake with a NPHC organization. Does this happen often? Is it even allowed? A recently deaffiliated Sigma Nu brother (yes, traitor knight, as adequately stated earlier) now just came off probate with Phi Beta Sigma and it just blew my mind!

[33girl]

I'm betting that Phi Beta Sigma has NO CLUE he was in an NIC group. It's not allowed.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I'm betting that Phi Beta Sigma has NO CLUE he was in an NIC group.

My thoughts as well.

[ealymc]

It's a small campus. I have a feeling they know. Not to mention he has a car accident injury rending him with one and a half arms - pretty distinctive. And I know from when I was the only black member of Sigma Nu on my campus during my time there (as he was when he dropped letters), that we tend to stick out, especially at All-Greek events.

The thing that pisses me off most is that he owes my organization a crapload of money. I know, we should have gotten rid of him when we realized he was worthless, but at the time, we couldn't be as ruthless as was expected of us. That has DEFINITELY changed. Well, I guess collections can handle that and the Sigmas can have what used to be OUR problem.

[ealymc]

Do you know where i can actually find these regs in writing?

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by ealymc

The thing that pisses me off most is that he owes my organization a crapload of money. I know, we should have gotten rid of him when we realized he was worthless, but at the time, we couldn't be as ruthless as was expected of us. That has DEFINITELY changed. Well, I guess collections can handle that and the Sigmas can have what used to be OUR problem.

Definitely allow collections to handle the financial issues.

Originally Posted by ealymc

Do you know where i can actually find these regs in writing?

Each fraternity has their own rules regarding membership etc., so you will need to check with the headquarters for both Phi Beta Sigma and Sigma Nu.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by TSteven

Each fraternity has their own rules regarding membership etc., so you will need to check with the headquarters for both Phi Beta Sigma and Sigma Nu.

NIC by-laws, however, do provide as follows:

Section 1. Membership Requirements.

(a) Fraternity Membership. To be eligible for membership in the Conference, a fraternity must:

. . .


(3) Be mutually exclusive of and in competition with other general fraternities, meaning that no member fraternity shall initiate a member of another fraternity until such time as the second fraternity shall have been formally notified in writing by the national office of the first fraternity that a candidate for membership in the second fraternity is no longer regarded as a member of the fraternity.

So for Sigma Nu, at least, I would think this would be the minimum standard. Sigma Nu could, of course, adopt a more stringent standard but not a less stringent one, no?

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by ealymc

Please forgive me if already covered, but there has been little talk regarding denouncing your letters in an IFC fraternity and going through intake with a NPHC organization. Does this happen often? Is it even allowed? A recently disaffiliated Sigma Nu brother (yes, traitor knight, as adequately stated earlier) now just came off probate with Phi Beta Sigma and it just blew my mind!

Does this happen often? No it does not. Is it allowed? Only if both fraternities allow it.

I am not familiar with NPHC policies, but as far as the NIC is concerned, an NIC fraternity may initiate a member from other inter/national fraternities (NPHC, IFC, NIC and others) only after the man terminates his membership and is granted a release from IHQ. Having said that, not all NIC (IFC) fraternities may choose to initiate terminated members of other fraternities.

[ealymc]

What exactly is NIC? I've never heard of it before until today. We only ever talked about IFC.

[MysticCat]

The National Interfraternity Conference. It is the international umbrella organization that most, but not all, social fraternities belong to.

IFC is a campus organization, and membership will vary by campus. Chapters of NIC fraternities will almost always be members, but it may also have non-NIC members.

Put it this way -- Sigma Nu Fraternity is a member of the NIC. Your chapter of Sigma Nu is a member of your campus IFC.

[AF&AMViking]

I'm a Proud Member of Alpha Phi Omega National Service Fraternity and also a member of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity Inc. and for what I read from some of the people on here they got some problems!!!

[lillady85]

If you know for a fact that someone is in a NPHC sorority and has now pledged an NPC sorority...should you say something?