Is this legal? Deactivated one NPC, now part of a new NPC.

[puddintane]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

Hum, I think the institution is mistaken in it's impression that the situation only benefits the Greek Organization. I tend to think that your institution has to believe that the overall effect of Greek Life on the university is beneficial or you would terminate your relationships with the GLOS. A healthy balance of the university helping the GLOs and the GLOs helping the institution would be good overall. If the university takes a only "what's in it for us" attitude, I think you'll have more problems between groups and that will spill over into campus life at large.

I can see the liability point on some level, but after a person appears listed as a member in a yearbook, it's hard to make a claim about privacy. There would be ways around the idea that you got the info. only from the confidential student file.

From an administrative point, we have to look at all student organizations the same. We can't pick and choose which ones we will protect the student's privacy on, and which ones we won't. It's an all or none deal. The only reason schools even have a Greek Advisor is because it tends to be the largest of all of the organizations, and it takes someone who has participated in the system on how it works. Other than the sheer numbers? They wouldn't bother with the staffing.

I cannot think of a single reason, how a couple of students every few years, that may initiate in in two NPC sororities, is going to destroy Greek Life as a whole at our University. In the instance that it happened at our school, more people knew that it happened rather than know who it happened with. Our school is so large these girls sometimes disappear between semesters and over the summer....they just don't re-enroll.

You make a good point regarding the yearbook, however, it has to be initiated by the students not by me. I cannot launch a campaign to apply the rules on the students that I know about. I have to be fair to all. I don't look for ways, "around the system"...we follow the rules that are handed down to me by my superiors, that is how I keep the lights on.

We have to consider all of the groups, not just Greek Organizations.

With us, even the yearbook isn't a good source. Less than 25% of the student population bother to show up to have their picture taken.

On student applications for recruitment, there is only one "status" classification: Your Class (Freshman, Sophomore, etc.). So unless a student mentioned it, you wouldn't know she was a transfer. She just puts down which class she is a member of. We participate in deferred recruitment, so Freshman have to be verified at completing a minimum of 12 semester hours in order to be considered "second semester" Freshman.

As far as my job is concerned, and my role in the process, I am not willing to put the University, or myself, at risk and gamble on whether or not someone can make a "claim" against the University.

You don't have to win a lawsuit in order to permanently tarnish a University's reputation, all you have to do is file one.

[ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl]

Originally Posted by susan314

If a woman has never attended any university but yours, then you're probably safe. (If she had pledged and initiated in another NPC group on your campus, Panhel and the other groups would be able to detect that.)

If its a case of someone who transferred from another university, the only way you could tell is by doing some investigating yourself. (Following whatever procedures your national endorses.) If you have a PNM who transferred from XYZ University and you have suspicions about whether or not she was in an NPC group there, you could always call that university's Greek Life/Panhellenic office - they may be able to assist you.

You know, these days with facebook, I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to find out. Seems like if they were in another organization, there'd be a picture or two here or there of them in letters or with sisters in letters...enough to give you reason to confront them.

Of course, it would be nice if people were just honest. And if they respected their own organization...I can't understand abandoning one and joining another...it defeats the purpose of sisterhood and reduces it to just a "club" status. But then, I guess some people do regard their organization as a social club.

[Kevin]

Wow.. y'all are scary.

First off, if someone's going to lie about being in a different organization, why would they tell the truth about their SSN?

Secondly, why can you not take your new members' word that they haven't been in another organization? Is that not good enough?

[33girl]

Because when they give their SSN, they probably aren't planning to quit, unless they're really bonkers.

It's sad that you can't trust someone's word, but a lot of us have been shown (in real life and on here) that you can't. Also, sometimes I think that it is innocent - the women who joined a second group weren't properly educated during their pledgeship on sorority and NPC rules and regs because they were too busy opening their million gifts. But that is another thread .

[JonInKC]

Yeah, honestly, I imagined there would be some kind of database to check out these kinds of things. I can't believe in this day and age there's not.