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11-20-2007, 01:30 PM
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Leslie, thanks so much for all that information! And ta kala... we can't wait for you to get home!
In the meantime, here's another trivia question:
What was KD's original open motto?
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11-20-2007, 05:28 PM
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"... the 1919 Convention voted to make "Sigma" the key letter in honor of retiring National President Marion Mullins, an initiate of Sigma Chapter."
Some of the others:
Mu was also named in honor of Marion, who was National Treasurer at the time.
Epsilon Omega was "named for Edith Orilla KNown, the Naitonal Chapterian who worked with the chapter at the University of Kentucky in securing its charter"
It also said that in the early years, groups were allowed to choose their own name, so that may explain why it was not in order.
ETA: My guess for the open motto would be "Let us pursue the honorable things" or "We seek that which is noblest."
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11-21-2007, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ta kala
"... the 1919 Convention voted to make "Sigma" the key letter in honor of retiring National President Marion Mullins, an initiate of Sigma Chapter."
Some of the others:
Mu was also named in honor of Marion, who was National Treasurer at the time.
Epsilon Omega was "named for Edith Orilla KNown, the Naitonal Chapterian who worked with the chapter at the University of Kentucky in securing its charter"
It also said that in the early years, groups were allowed to choose their own name, so that may explain why it was not in order.
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Wow! Thanks so much for the info, ta kala. I've been wondering about the double letter sigmas for so long. What a relief to finally have the answer.
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11-23-2007, 10:35 AM
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ta kala - Your knowledge of all things KD astounds me. Thanks for sharing the info about the chapters!
And what a great question, katmandu!
The original open motto was, "Let us pursue the honorable." Not knowing Greek, I wonder if ta kala diokomen could have several translations, and therefore it has morphed (for lack of a better word) over the years.
I've also heard that when the flower was changed from the marguerite daisy to the rose, it was specifically the white kaiserin rose. Not being familiar with varieties of roses, I wonder if that's just an ordinary white rose.
Great. Now I realize that I don't know enough Greek and that I am flower-ignorant.
ETA: Here's a link to a picture of a Kaiserin Auguste Viktoria, which is the closest thing I can find to a "white kaiserin rose":
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=3570%22
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11-23-2007, 01:16 PM
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Thank you - but I can't take all the credit - Ordinary Miracles has provided me a lot of info.
For the motto:
"In the August, 1912 Angelos, classical scholar professor Winfield P. Woolf pointed out that the ancient Greek root word "dioko" was used more frequently to refer to a chase. Therefore, he said, the motto is 'active and aggressive, not lazy and passive.'"
KD has had 9 executive directors since 1925. How many chapters are represented in those 9 women?
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11-26-2007, 03:24 PM
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Glad you're joining us, kdizzy!
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KD has had 9 executive directors since 1925. How many chapters are represented in those 9 women?
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Seven: Psi, Sigma Sigma, Sigma Alpha, Omicron, Alpha Psi, Delta Kappa, and Alpha Mu.
ETA: Since what year has a Founder's Day message been published in The Angelos by the National President?
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11-27-2007, 02:32 PM
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ETA: Since what year has a Founder's Day message been published in The Angelos by the National President?
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Just a guess, but I'm gonna say 1913, when plans were made outlining the first celebration of Founder's Day (even though FD was first recognized in 1911, I don't think there were any actual celebrations until 1913).
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11-27-2007, 03:15 PM
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ETA: Since what year has a Founder's Day message been published in The Angelos by the National President?
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I am going to guess 1921.
This is a fun game! I think that I am going to ask for Ordinary Miracles as a Christmas gift.
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11-27-2007, 05:13 PM
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Not quite there yet. It's not 1913 or 1921.
The answer is in Ordinary Miracles.
ETA: Thanks for the photo of the kaiserin rose, Sydney!  Where did you learn that?
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02-27-2008, 01:26 PM
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ETA: Since what year has a Founder's Day message been published in The Angelos by the National President?
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What's the answer to this, Leslie Anne?
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10-26-2008, 04:32 PM
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Since what year has a Founder's Day message been published in The Angelos by the National President?
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Here's my (belated) Founder's Day trivia bump! It's been almost a year since Leslie first asked this question... what's the answer?!?
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11-30-2007, 12:42 AM
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the motto
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The original open motto was, "Let us pursue the honorable." Not knowing Greek, I wonder if ta kala diokomen could have several translations, and therefore it has morphed (for lack of a better word) over the years.
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My father, who is from Greece, said that the motto actually means "we pursue the good things."
It definitely was gussied up to our current translation.
BTW, my father used to tease my chapter sisters about their pronunciation. The Southerners had that twang, "Taw kawlah deh-oh-koh-men" which bothered the heck out of him. But hey, he had an accent too!
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I've also heard that when the flower was changed from the marguerite daisy to the rose, it was specifically the white kaiserin rose. Not being familiar with varieties of roses, I wonder if that's just an ordinary white rose.
Great. Now I realize that I don't know enough Greek and that I am flower-ignorant.
ETA: Here's a link to a picture of a Kaiserin Auguste Viktoria, which is the closest thing I can find to a "white kaiserin rose":
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=3570%22
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What a wonderful old thread, so much great historical information!
if any of you KDs out there are gardeners, Roses Unlimited has the Kaiserin Augusta Viktoria Rose mentioned above available. I purchased two plants from them and have them potted up. I am looking forward to seeing the first blooms on these original KD roses! I believe the website said they were hardy in zones 2 through 8, just a little tender of early spring frosts in the northern edge of their range. That means a lot of us could probably grow them.
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12-09-2016, 04:17 PM
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White roses are pretty, but Kappa Delta's first flower was a daisy. Alpha Chapter voted to change it between 1902 and 1904. I kind of wish we'd kept the daisy. Less fancy, but more cheerful than white roses.
http://kappadelta.org/a-quest-for-history/
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11-26-2007, 03:11 PM
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This is all so wonderful! I love reading about our sorority's history and facts that they don't teach you during your new member period. Unfortunately I can't answer many of the questions but I just wanted to let you all know that I am having a great time reading all of this!
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