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Old 09-27-2006, 08:40 PM
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Hmmm...

Yes it's Islam that is the only hotbed of extremism in South East Asia

Perhaps you should look into the number of Christian (and specifically Roman Catholics) extremists/militants that have been responsible for attacks and killings in the region...

So what if the guy is Muslim, a Muslim (like a Christian) can come in a lot of "flavours". Is he overtly religious or secular? Is he a fundamentalist or mainstream? Is he a spiritualist or literalist? These are the questions I'd like answered, regardless of his particular faith - because Fundamentalist, Literalists, or even Overtly Religious are all waring signs in my opinion...
I agree that there are extremists in many religions. All one has to do is look at the Crusades, or the Salem Witch trials.... hence, why I'm not a fan of organized religion.

However, and maybe Opi can chime in here... what is one to think about Islam when the final words of Mohammed to his disciples was, "I was ordered to fight all men until they say, "There is no god but Allah."

and, in Qur'an :39 it says, "Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah." and "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief --non Muslims) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone."

and in Ishaq :587 "Our onslaught will not be a weak and faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live. We will fight until you turn Islam, humbly seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have mutilated every opponent. We have driven them violenty before us at the command of Allah and Islam. We will fight unti our religion is established. And we will plunder them, for they must suffer disgrace."

Perhaps I'm not reading these quotes correctly, but it doesn't seem like a faith of tolerance and peace. Opi.. could you please clarify?
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Old 09-26-2006, 10:15 AM
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there was a coup while Bush was giving his speech to the UN, and also in the news because so many American men are travelling to Thailand for its vibrant and somewhat deviant sex industry, HIV rates in America are rising because the tourists are coming back home and having unprotected sex with numerous partners...

anything else in the news?
yeah, there's some riots in Romania about gov't. corruption.
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