Case of the Handsign

[Soul D-Psi-ple]

Originally Posted by jojapeach

I attended a PWI, and I see your point. Gamma Sigma Sigma exists at several campuses (sp?) in Georgia including UGA, Clark Atlanta University, and Spelman College. I know I've seen pictures of CAU Gamma Sigs throwing up their handsign, but I don't know any Gamma Sigs from UGA - black, white, etc - who ran around campus throwing handsigns, doing calls, or wearing jackets.

At the same time, KKPsi should adopt their own thing. (IMO, most of the all/mostly black chapters of orgs non-NPHC orgs should not try to fit in with NPHC behavior by doing what we do when you are not who we are. But we've already been there in that Howard Pike thread.) I know your handsign is similar to Phi Beta Sigma's. I don't see the difference, but if KKPsi and PBS see the difference, that's fine. What's not cool is your bruh because he's throwing up KKPsi sign as if he's throwing up somebody else's hook. I don't see Kappas or Alphas throwing up their signs in anything like a hook.

Anything and everything that WE do now has been going on loooooooooooong before many of you crossed into your respective orgs. WE have adopted our OWN thing. We step (many pre-dominantly white chapters step as well), we party hop(as do our PWI chapters), we have a handsign (PWI chapters throw it too), we have a call (yes, it's official), and if you don't like it, oh well. We don't give a damn. Deal with it. KKPsi and TBSigma are going to keep doing what we do. The bruh throwing up the Psi like a hook should actually have both hands up with his body forming a Psi. It's not new, it's rather ancient (old school). Many bruhs nowadays don't do it like that (including myself) because it looks too familiar to Omega hooks. Out of respect for my bruhs who are Omega's, I don't do it. As for the KKPsi vs PBS handsign, the only difference is we have the thumb out and they have it in. Simple. We work hard and handle our own. How about you let us do us and y'all do what y'all do? Y'all shouldn't let your insecurities get to you.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Soul D-Psi-ple

Anything and everything that WE do now has been going on loooooooooooong before many of you crossed into your respective orgs. WE have adopted our OWN thing. We step (many pre-dominantly white chapters step as well), we party hop(as do our PWI chapters), we have a handsign (PWI chapters throw it too), we have a call (yes, it's official), and if you don't like it, oh well. We don't give a damn. Deal with it. KKPsi and TBSigma are going to keep doing what we do. The bruh throwing up the Psi like a hook should actually have both hands up with his body forming a Psi. It's not new, it's rather ancient (old school). Many bruhs nowadays don't do it like that (including myself) because it looks too familiar to Omega hooks. Out of respect for my bruhs who are Omega's, I don't do it. As for the KKPsi vs PBS handsign, the only difference is we have the thumb out and they have it in. Simple. We work hard and handle our own. How about you let us do us and y'all do what y'all do? Y'all shouldn't let your insecurities get to you.

^^^ doesn't care what people think of his org

[jubilance1922]

Originally Posted by Soul D-Psi-ple

Anything and everything that WE do now has been going on loooooooooooong before many of you crossed into your respective orgs. WE have adopted our OWN thing. We step (many pre-dominantly white chapters step as well), we party hop(as do our PWI chapters), we have a handsign (PWI chapters throw it too), we have a call (yes, it's official), and if you don't like it, oh well. We don't give a damn. Deal with it. KKPsi and TBSigma are going to keep doing what we do. The bruh throwing up the Psi like a hook should actually have both hands up with his body forming a Psi. It's not new, it's rather ancient (old school). Many bruhs nowadays don't do it like that (including myself) because it looks too familiar to Omega hooks. Out of respect for my bruhs who are Omega's, I don't do it. As for the KKPsi vs PBS handsign, the only difference is we have the thumb out and they have it in. Simple. We work hard and handle our own. How about you let us do us and y'all do what y'all do? Y'all shouldn't let your insecurities get to you.

What do you consider "old school"?

No matter how old your "traditions" are in your org, it will always seem to others that your org simply saw things that other folks were doing and said "that looks cool, lets do it too!". I've attended 2 PWI's and visited many others, and I've never seen those chapters with handsigns, calls, line names, etc. But mysteriously, chapters at HBCUs want to imitate what they see D9 orgs do. I don't know if its a case of "I didn't make line for XYZ so I'll take the next best thing" or you simply want to fit in with everyone else.

Yeah, I said it...You look like copycats.

[jojapeach]

Originally Posted by Soul D-Psi-ple

Anything and everything that WE do now has been going on loooooooooooong before many of you crossed into your respective orgs. WE have adopted our OWN thing. We step (many pre-dominantly white chapters step as well), we party hop(as do our PWI chapters), we have a handsign (PWI chapters throw it too), we have a call (yes, it's official), and if you don't like it, oh well. We don't give a damn. Deal with it. KKPsi and TBSigma are going to keep doing what we do. The bruh throwing up the Psi like a hook should actually have both hands up with his body forming a Psi. It's not new, it's rather ancient (old school). Many bruhs nowadays don't do it like that (including myself) because it looks too familiar to Omega hooks. Out of respect for my bruhs who are Omega's, I don't do it. As for the KKPsi vs PBS handsign, the only difference is we have the thumb out and they have it in. Simple. We work hard and handle our own. How about you let us do us and y'all do what y'all do? Y'all shouldn't let your insecurities get to you.

Are you kidding me? All that text and other responses, and you want US to not be so insecure??? Mmmmmmhmm. I've spoken to members of PBS, and they notice the similarities, but they let it go. So I don't harbor resentment (wow...I said that the first time).

By now, you know that the GC community notices a lot about our Greek lettered cultures, and we discuss and debate them. We made notice of KKPsi and made observations, but no one is taking it as seriously as you are. Again, let your own insecurities go.

[gamma_girl52]

Originally Posted by jojapeach

I attended a PWI, and I see your point. Gamma Sigma Sigma exists at several campuses (sp?) in Georgia including UGA, Clark Atlanta University, and Spelman College. I know I've seen pictures of CAU Gamma Sigs throwing up their handsign, but I don't know any Gamma Sigs from UGA - black, white, etc - who ran around campus throwing handsigns, doing calls, or wearing jackets.

Ay!! Don't be bringin' Gamma Sig in this mess!!

@Soul D-Psi-ple: Dude, you don't have to explain anything. You'll get nowhere, trust me. Sounds like you are cool bein in KKPsi. So keep doin you, and your bruhs will keep doin them. That's why threads like this get so long....doing a lot of unecessary explaining and at the end of the day, real talk, some people are STILL gonna say and think that your org is fake, it's biting off other orgs, etc.

Not an attack on you but chill out. If anybody feel you, I feel you. But I learned a long time ago that it ain't worth it to trip in here off of every little thing...

[jojapeach]

Originally Posted by gamma_girl52

Ay!! Don't be bringin' Gamma Sig in this mess!!

@Soul D-Psi-ple: Dude, you don't have to explain anything. You'll get nowhere, trust me. Sounds like you are cool bein in KKPsi. So keep doin you, and your bruhs will keep doin them. That's why threads like this get so long....doing a lot of unecessary explaining and at the end of the day, real talk, some people are STILL gonna say and think that your org is fake, it's biting off other orgs, etc.

Not an attack on you but chill out. If anybody feel you, I feel you. But I learned a long time ago that it ain't worth it to trip in here off of every little thing...

Sorry, Gamma_girl52, but that's the only real example that I have. I'm not gonna lie about seeing a predominately white chapter of KKPsi because I haven't.

Your words are wise. All Greeks have to deal with some form of criticism and KIM instead of trying to defend it. I'm still learning that to some degree, but I'm not getting into an insult fest over it. I just post my observations.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by jojapeach

What's not cool is your bruh because he's throwing up KKPsi sign as if he's throwing up somebody else's hook. I don't see Kappas or Alphas throwing up their signs in anything like a hook.

But I took that to mean he was a KKPsi and a Que. The same with the brother on the left throwing up the one middle finger. I thought he was also an Iota.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

But I took that to mean he was a KKPsi and a Que. The same with the brother on the left throwing up the one middle finger. I thought he was also an Iota.

I thought they were either copying or that they had dual membership.

I guess both the imitation hook and middle finger are derivatives of the "Psi."

[jojapeach]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

But I took that to mean he was a KKPsi and a Que. The same with the brother on the left throwing up the one middle finger. I thought he was also an Iota.

My mind can't wrap itself around that concept. I don't think I would throw up my Sigma handsign with another organization at anytime. I know there are members with dual (and triple) org memberships, but I just don't recall seeing or hearing of repping both orgs in a picture for one org. Maybe I'm learning again.