Pledging Backwards...

[laidbackfella]

Originally Posted by Japan357

PS. For those of you who are wondering, yes I did in a certain sense "double pledge" seeing that I'm also a Mason, but that org has a completely different goal and purpose than greek orgs and it is not by any means a "stepping stone."

While this is your understanding and you have the information to support that claim, others, looking from the outside in, may not view it the same.

Just as you are doing with service organizations.

I think that D9 Greeks get stuff twisted up at times thinking that everyone joins, or wants to join another organization because they want more of what D9 Greeks do/have.

Sometimes organizations have a history, within a career or profession, that many D9 Greeks refuse to investigate because they feel that they have hit the pinnacle of Greekdom.

The only real problem that I have with organizations outside of the NPHC, that are NOT historically recognized as having a sense of "Social Greek Life", is when they begin to "adopt" traditions indicative of D9 organizations on a chapter by chapter basis, rather than something that is recognized and acknowledged by a majority of the body or their headquarters.

[Japan357]

Originally Posted by laidbackfella

While this is your understanding and you have the information to support that claim, others, looking from the outside in, may not view it the same.

Just as you are doing with service organizations.

I think that D9 Greeks get stuff twisted up at times thinking that everyone joins, or wants to join another organization because they want more of what D9 Greeks do/have.
Sometimes organizations have a history, within a career or profession, that many D9 Greeks refuse to investigate because they feel that they have hit the pinnacle of Greekdom.

The only real problem that I have with organizations outside of the NPHC, that are NOT historically recognized as having a sense of "Social Greek Life", is when they begin to "adopt" traditions indicative of D9 organizations on a chapter by chapter basis, rather than something that is recognized and acknowledged by a majority of the body or their headquarters.

You know, that is a good point I can acknowledge that. However, it was my understanding that greek orgs outside of the D9 that are about more than "service" typically have something relating to that in their titles. For example there are greek orgs that are considered "professional music frats, professional business frat, legal frat, etc." If it is termed a "service frat" that is all that one can infer in terms of its purpose.

[dzdst796]

I guess it would be what their preference is, but I would question that person as to why they feel the need to join a little sister org. to FRATENITY when they are already a member of SORORITY. It just doesn't make sense to me.

[marquise1911]

^^ Right on the money!!!

Let's be general.

1) The D9 is not the pinnacle of greekdom, but is OBVIOUSLY more developed and organized than the sweet heart organizations they created and latter abandoned.

2) An individual can perform community service and support an organization without pledging a support organization.

3) When one pledges, one makes an oath, hence it's called "pledging". Multiple allegiances lead to conflicts of interests and character.

Graduate from Harvard and then go to a community college for your master's
Quit your job as a corp. exec. to work part time at Burger King
Eric leaving Hallie for Shaquandaniesha from the Boom Boom Room

It's just backwards.

[jubilance1922]

Originally Posted by marquise1911

^^ Right on the money!!!

Let's be general.

1) The D9 is not the pinnacle of greekdom, but is OBVIOUSLY more developed and organized than the sweet heart organizations they created and latter abandoned.

2) An individual can perform community service and support an organization without pledging a support organization.

3) When one pledges, one makes an oath, hence it's called "pledging". Multiple allegiances lead to conflicts of interests and character.

Graduate from Harvard and then go to a community college for your master's
Quit your job as a corp. exec. to work part time at Burger King
Eric leaving Hallie for Shaquandaniesha from the Boom Boom Room

It's just backwards.

Backwards TO YOU.

If you wouldn't do it that way, then don't. But everyone will not share your opinion or viewpoint, and it may not be backwards to them. As long as they are happy with the choices they made, then you shouldn't be worried about it.

[mccoyred]

Originally Posted by dzdst796

I guess it would be what their preference is, but I would question that person as to why they feel the need to join a little sister org. to FRATENITY when they are already a member of SORORITY. It just doesn't make sense to me.

That boggles me as well. Now if old girl was MARRIED to a Kappa, the she could be a Silhouette (officially recognized Kappa wives auxiliary) but not a Sweet. To me, it is silly to pledge for someones borrowed letter when you have three of your own.

With service orgs, I see no point in joining after someone pledges a D9 org because the basis of both is service, although D9 has a more social component to it. I see professional orgs as something totally different because they focus on a specific profession and its associated culture; in fact, at some point, I would like to join a professional org.

[agzg]

I'm a member of all sorts of stuff, a couple of which I joined AFTER I joined my women's fraternity. While I may identify more and on more aspects with my sisters in Alpha Gamma Delta, my sisters and brothers in Phi Sigma Iota and others are also dear to my heart. They have different interests, they're different people... I was the only Alpha Gam in my major on my campus, joining other groups, especially academic fraternities, helped me identify on a broader basis with the people that were already in my classes.

I'm not one for little sister or sweetheart organizations, but we don't really have any on my campus. Fraternity chapters have sweethearts and a couple have little sisters that they've "named," but it's not really a group. I don't really think I'd personally go for the "bow to the masters" mentality that a lot of little sisters have in regard to their "big brother" fraternity. And sweethearts, at least on my campus, get treated like crap. Not worth my time.

[marquise1911]

Originally Posted by laidbackfella

Is she currently dating a Kappa?

Joining an organization that has a separate, specific, independant and ITS OWN autonomous purpose falling outside the scope of the those covered by D9 organizations doesn't seem to be a backwards step.

It just not the "norm" most people are accustomed to seeing.

No she's not. She just wants to be a sweet for some reason.

[teena]

Originally Posted by marquise1911

No she's not. She just wants to be a sweet for some reason.

To get into Kappa parties for free? If I were a Kappa, I would find her highly suspect.

[cjoanell]

Originally Posted by marquise1911

Is it ok to pledge a sweet heart organization after you have pledged a D9 organization? For example a Zeta friend of mines wants to be a K-sweet. . Also is it ok to pledge a service frat/sorrority after you pledge D9?

Is that not kind of backwards?

I think it's backwards, but hey like Jadakiss said, knock ya self out

[BluBlaZon]

I got an interesting backward situtation for you...it was told to me that a friend of mine that is in ABC org wants to pledge...now if you read that last line right..she came in the paper way and now wants to go online after becoming a member of ABC org...now help me out here is that backwards...I truly think that is pledging backwards...let me know

[cjoanell]

Originally Posted by BluBlaZon

I got an interesting backward situtation for you...it was told to me that a friend of mine that is in ABC org wants to pledge...now if you read that last line right..she came in the paper way and now wants to go online after becoming a member of ABC org...now help me out here is that backwards...I truly think that is pledging backwards...let me know

I've heard of post-pledging. To each it's own. I thunk if you are going to do it, let it be immediately after crossing. Don't wait 1 - 5 yrs later. Even though all that time post pledging could be spent on making a difference in the chapter implementing programs, etc. JMO

[Japan357]

I think its always better to pledge before crossing than after, because if you pledge after you have that thought in the back of your mind that you already have the org on paper so at any time if you "can't take it anymore," you can simply walk away and still have something as opposed to the latter. At the same time though, post pledging is better than not pledging at all, to me.

[Natty Nupe]

yeah i knew a dude that had the chance to pledge along with a line. he dropped line thinking that he din't need to pledge and he already had his letters. in the end he couldn't stand being referred to as 'that paper kappa' so he ended up pledging by himself...took a whole let of wood too from what i heard lol