So What Happens Now? - Page 5

Rudey · #1 04-11-2006, 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by jubilance1922
No, I brought up the fact that folks think they are experts when they aren't. I never said folks couldn't have their own opinion. Saying "I think he did it" is different than saying "XYZ evidence is missing and therefore that means that ABC did/didn't happen"...one is based in opinion and one is based in supposed "facts" that folks really can't prove on here.

Who said she was a prostitute? Exotic dancer/stripper is not the same thing.

How did she "play" the race card? She can't help the race of her alleged attackers.

She worked for an escort agency.

And she said she was attacked by white guys who yelled racial epithets at ther right? And then people talked about how Duke is full of rich white kids (30% minority of course) in a poor black neighborhood.

Again, what evidence would make you not believe her story?

-Rudey

Rudey · #2 04-11-2006, 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by mccoyred
Here we go with names again. First Limbaugh then macallan25 and now you. Stop it already! Just because she is a stripper does NOT mean she is a prostitute or a crackhead or ho or anything else like that. Now if she happens to be and those facts are proven, then fine but don't make assumptions because if you want to stick to the facts, then stick to them all the way not just when its convenient.

BTW, neither side has unlimited credibility.

She worked for an escort agency. I did reply to your post about epithets and you didn't reply back.

Prostitute isn't a bad word just like a stripper isn't a bad word.

-Rudey

Rudey · #3 04-11-2006, 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by wrigley
If "guests" of the lacrosse team party were the ones who actually did commit the assault, aren't the team members who were there guilty of doing nothing to stop it? Why such a code of silence by the entire team? The resignation of the award winning coach wouldn't have been necessary if they were completely innocent.

The law has put many innocent people into jails. In this case, the law has ruined their reputations before a trial or even an indictment.

They provided DNA evidence and have every right to not help "The law" screw them.

-Rudey

jubilance1922 · #4 04-11-2006, 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
She worked for an escort agency.

And she said she was attacked by white guys who yelled racial epithets at ther right? And then people talked about how Duke is full of rich white kids (30% minority of course) in a poor black neighborhood.

Again, what evidence would make you not believe her story?

-Rudey

I'd like proof that she worked as an escort, not just that she worked for an escort agency.

Once again, how is she "pulling the race card" if her alleged attackers shouted racial epithets AT HER? She's not responsible for that, nor is she responsible for the media's spin on the story. I seriously doubt that she's some type of Jedi using mind tricks to get people to do her bidding.

I don't know what kind of evidence I would need to not believe her. But I know I don't have it now, and until I do, I'm going to believe her story.

DSTCHAOS · #5 04-11-2006, 11:26 AM

Thanks for reminding me of why I wasn't going to discuss this case on Greek Chat.

jubilance1922 · #6 04-11-2006, 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
The law has put many innocent people into jails. In this case, the law has ruined their reputations before a trial or even an indictment.

They provided DNA evidence and have every right to not help "The law" screw them.

-Rudey

Do you really feel its ok for someone to do nothing when they someone being attacked? And then not come forward with information, especially if it will exonerate you?

GTFOH...

Rudey · #7 04-11-2006, 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by jubilance1922
I'd like proof that she worked as an escort, not just that she worked for an escort agency.

Once again, how is she "pulling the race card" if her alleged attackers shouted racial epithets AT HER? She's not responsible for that, nor is she responsible for the media's spin on the story. I seriously doubt that she's some type of Jedi using mind tricks to get people to do her bidding.

I don't know what kind of evidence I would need to not believe her. But I know I don't have it now, and until I do, I'm going to believe her story.

Right. She was a secretary for the escort agency that sent her out that night.

And whether they did it or they didn't, you believe her. So I just don't know what to tell you I guess.

-Rudey

jubilance1922 · #8 04-11-2006, 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Right. She was a secretary for the escort agency that sent her out that night.

And whether they did it or they didn't, you believe her. So I just don't know what to tell you I guess.

-Rudey

Say what you want, you can't prove she's a prostitute. And even if she was, even if she slept with 100 men that night before she got to the party, if she didn't consent then that is rape!

Ch2tf · #9 04-11-2006, 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
The law has put many innocent people into jails. In this case, the law has ruined their reputations before a trial or even an indictment.
They provided DNA evidence and have every right to not help "The law" screw them.

It sounds like your problem then is with the DA/Police and the Media and not this young woman. Whether she is telling the truth or not remain to be seen. But if you have a problem with how they guys have been portrayed in the media, then take it to the right place. Like Jubilance said, I doubt she is a Jedi miraculously making others do her bidding. If the DA chose to make the issue highly public before the trial, and if the media chose to use the "race card" as you put it, then that is their choice not hers.

Rudey · #10 04-11-2006, 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by jubilance1922
Do you really feel its ok for someone to do nothing when they someone being attacked? And then not come forward with information, especially if it will exonerate you?

GTFOH...

Well see that's like asking if pigs could fly. I wouldn't be in that situation to begin with, if I had been I would have tried to stop it, and if something awful happened I would provide information with the assistance of a lawyer so that no crooked pig could try and screw me.

In Tawana Brawley's case the police were to blame and in this case the police are the good guys. I just am so confused.

-Rudey

Rudey · #11 04-11-2006, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by jubilance1922
Say what you want, you can't prove she's a prostitute. And even if she was, even if she slept with 100 men that night before she got to the party, if she didn't consent then that is rape!

Well they didn't find semen, latex, or lubricant traces. Maybe she's the virgin mary.

And saying she worked for an escort agency and was sent out by an escort agency is enough proof short of providing you a video of her taking cash for poontang.

-Rudey

jubilance1922 · #12 04-11-2006, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Well see that's like asking if pigs could fly. I wouldn't be in that situation to begin with, if I had been I would have tried to stop it, and if something awful happened I would provide information with the assistance of a lawyer so that no crooked pig could try and screw me.

In Tawana Brawley's case the police were to blame and in this case the police are the good guys. I just am so confused.

-Rudey

I never made a comment about the police in either case.

Try to stay on topic Rudey, and make comments on things I ACTUALLY TYPE.

mccoyred · #13 04-11-2006, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
She worked for an escort agency. I did reply to your post about epithets and you didn't reply back.

Prostitute isn't a bad word just like a stripper isn't a bad word.

-Rudey

I didn't reply back because I realize that no matter how I explained it (being a BLACK WOMAN myself) that you wouldn't get it.

Rudey · #14 04-11-2006, 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by Ch2tf
It sounds like your problem then is with the DA/Police and the Media and not this young woman. Whether she is telling the truth or not remain to be seen. But if you have a problem with how they guys have been portrayed in the media, then take it to the right place. Like Jubilance said, I doubt she is a Jedi miraculously making others do her bidding. If the DA chose to make the issue highly public before the trial, and if the media chose to use the "race card" as you put it, then that is their choice not hers.

If she lied about it, it wasn't rape, there were no racist words used, and then the DA and media worked off that, then she most definitely is the problem.

And a lot of my problem is with the DA, the police, and the media. Unlike jubilance who can't be convinced otherwise, I want the evidence to do the talking.

-Rudey

Rudey · #15 04-11-2006, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by jubilance1922
I never made a comment about the police in either case.

Try to stay on topic Rudey, and make comments on things I ACTUALLY TYPE.

You give testimony to the police sugar.

-Rudey