So What Happens Now?

[Jimmy Choo]

Bottom line despite everything else that's being said..... the 46 young men tested did not match any DNA recovered from her body. If 3 of them held her down and forcible raped her there would have been transfer somewhere. There was none. And now there are photos that show her arriving at the house already bruised and beat up.

[jubilance1922]

Originally posted by Rudey
You can also think Tawana was an alien from Mars but it doesn't mean it's true. The courts did not agree, either in the criminal case or the lawsuits against Sharpton et al., and neither did the following evidence:

In the decision, the grand jury noted many inconsistencies in Brawley's story. Among these were the results of the rape kit, which did not indicate sexual assault. Also, despite her claim of having been held captive for days, Brawley was not suffering from exposure, was well nourished, and appeared to have brushed her teeth recently. There were no burns on her body, despite her clothing being charred. A shoe she was wearing was cut through, yet she had sustained no injuries to her foot. Testimony from her schoolmates indicated that she attended a local party during the time of her supposed abduction, and one witness claimed to have observed Brawley climbing into the garbage bag. An ex-boyfriend of Brawley's told Newsday that Brawley had admitted making the attack up.

A total of 180 witnesses were called during the trial. Brawley herself never testified. [2]

The motive Brawley may have had for faking the attack is not known. One hypothesis holds that Brawley, who skipped school to visit her incarcerated boyfriend the day of her disappearance, feared severe punishment from her stepfather, so she took the drastic step of staging an elaborate abduction. Few commentators believe she intended to create the media storm that resulted, but was instead swept up by a story that snowballed out of control.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawana_Brawley

-Rudey

Yeah, wikipedia is such an accurate source.

You can pull up whatever you want to Rudey, but I'm going to give the victim the benefit of the doubt. I know what sexual assault does to you and your state of mind. Not to mention, I never said that I thought these young men were guilty. I said that I believed Bradley, and I believe this young woman.

[jubilance1922]

Originally posted by ecupidelta
Bottom line despite everything else that's being said..... the 46 young men tested did not match any DNA recovered from her body. If 3 of them held her down and forcible raped her there would have been transfer somewhere. There was none. And now there are photos that show her arriving at the house already bruised and beat up.

Doesn't mean that sexual contact happened without her consent.

I love how everyone in this thread thinks they are qualified to discuss what physical evidence "should" be present during a sexual assault. Is anyone here a forensic scientist? Police officer? Rape counselor? No? Well then, you're just reguritating stuff you've read somewhere else, and you have no clue if its true or not.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by XOMichelle
She has a point.... I mean, if they all wore condoms there would be no DNA evidence, right?

Incorrect. Using condoms will not remove all traces of DNA. In either case, no traces of latex were found so condom use isn't the issue either.

[Kevin]

Originally posted by jubilance1922
Doesn't mean that sexual contact happened without her consent.

No, but it sure goes a long way towards showing reasonable doubt.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by jubilance1922
Yeah, wikipedia is such an accurate source.

You can pull up whatever you want to Rudey, but I'm going to give the victim the benefit of the doubt. I know what sexual assault does to you and your state of mind. Not to mention, I never said that I thought these young men were guilty. I said that I believed Bradley, and I believe this young woman.

What was inaccurate about that evidence? I have read it in many sources.

I can't argue with what you believe and your opinion. You can say the JFK was shot by the CIA, little green men landed in Roswell and that Mormons are right. It's not possible for me to argue against an opinion. I can argue with the facts. And right now the facts are supposed to show someone is a rapist, otherwise there is no merit to the claim - and they haven't done that.

It's funny, cry wolf enough times and after a while nobody believes you.

-Rudey

[Rudey]

Originally posted by jubilance1922
Doesn't mean that sexual contact happened without her consent.

I love how everyone in this thread thinks they are qualified to discuss what physical evidence "should" be present during a sexual assault. Is anyone here a forensic scientist? Police officer? Rape counselor? No? Well then, you're just reguritating stuff you've read somewhere else, and you have no clue if its true or not.

I love how without any knowledge you believe her story.

-Rudey

[jubilance1922]

Originally posted by Rudey
I love how without any knowledge you believe her story.

-Rudey

Last time I checked, I was allowed to do that.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by jubilance1922
Last time I checked, I was allowed to do that.

Last time I checked, I didn't say you weren't but you're the one that decided to bring it up against others, no?

Would there be any evidence to make you believe that this prostitute is lying or does her playing the race card give her unlimited credibility?

-Rudey

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by jubilance1922
The fact remains that the only folks who know what happened are not on this board, so calling folks vicious names is not helping anyone. Let's try to keep this conversation adult and civilized.

You know enough about rape and sexual assault to know why these convos are rarely adult and civilized.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by Rudey
Would there be any evidence to make you believe that this prostitute is lying or does her playing the race card give her unlimited credibility?

Prostitute? The "race card" (race isn't a card, but okay) would have been played even if the alleged victim did not say anything about the "N" word. It would have been played even MORESO if this had been a black team with a white exotic dancer. Such is life.

Also, the media commentary on the fact that Duke is on one side of the tracks and that NCCU is on the other side of the tracks in the same city speaks volumes on social class and race in this country.

[jubilance1922]

Originally posted by Rudey
Last time I checked, I didn't say you weren't but you're the one that decided to bring it up against others, no?

Would there be any evidence to make you believe that this prostitute is lying or does her playing the race card give her unlimited credibility?

-Rudey

No, I brought up the fact that folks think they are experts when they aren't. I never said folks couldn't have their own opinion. Saying "I think he did it" is different than saying "XYZ evidence is missing and therefore that means that ABC did/didn't happen"...one is based in opinion and one is based in supposed "facts" that folks really can't prove on here.

Who said she was a prostitute? Exotic dancer/stripper is not the same thing.

How did she "play" the race card? She can't help the race of her alleged attackers.

[mccoyred]

Originally posted by Rudey
Last time I checked, I didn't say you weren't but you're the one that decided to bring it up against others, no?

Would there be any evidence to make you believe that this prostitute is lying or does her playing the race card give her unlimited credibility?

-Rudey

Here we go with names again. First Limbaugh then macallan25 and now you. Stop it already! Just because she is a stripper does NOT mean she is a prostitute or a crackhead or ho or anything else like that. Now if she happens to be and those facts are proven, then fine but don't make assumptions because if you want to stick to the facts, then stick to them all the way not just when its convenient.

BTW, neither side has unlimited credibility.

[wrigley]

Originally posted by ecupidelta
Bottom line despite everything else that's being said..... the 46 young men tested did not match any DNA recovered from her body. If 3 of them held her down and forcible raped her there would have been transfer somewhere. There was none. And now there are photos that show her arriving at the house already bruised and beat up.

If "guests" of the lacrosse team party were the ones who actually did commit the assault, aren't the team members who were there guilty of doing nothing to stop it? Why such a code of silence by the entire team? The resignation of the award winning coach wouldn't have been necessary if they were completely innocent.

[Peaches-n-Cream]

Originally posted by jubilance1922
Yeah, wikipedia is such an accurate source.

You can pull up whatever you want to Rudey, but I'm going to give the victim the benefit of the doubt. I know what sexual assault does to you and your state of mind. Not to mention, I never said that I thought these young men were guilty. I said that I believed Bradley, and I believe this young woman.

I just posted this link in another thread. It's Court TV so I'm not sure how credible a source it is. Here is a CNN story about the following lawsuit.