Ivy League online degrees

[Neutral]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

No, YOUR post is totally false and ignorant!!!!

We are open to students with a variety of backgrounds and goals, with no formal requirements beyond a commitment to an academic challenge. --http://www.extension.harvard.edu/prospective/

To take courses at the Harvard Extension School, you simply register. No preliminary application is required. --http://www.extension.harvard.edu/2008-09/register/

If you don't even know the DIFFERENT policies for general course takers and degree candidates, you have NO say on this matter!

Few course takers were admitted into the degree programs, even fewer (around 2.5%) could graduate with degrees or diplomas from the Extension School.

[Senusret I]

I was in the Whitley/Byron camp!

Also known as the Mrs. Gilbert "Die. Just die!" delegation.

[Senusret I]

Military training doesn't impress me.

[MedInformatics]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Military training doesn't impress me.

Do you even know what goes on in a military training facility? Little comments like that piss me off so much because I just assume you're some punk who thinks he knows everything and feels the need to put some arrogant comment out there like they know whats going on. Here's and idea maggot, go to Basic Military Training and technical training then come back and tell me what it's like.

Maybe you can go to a desert facility for 6 months of training so you can separate from your family for 15 months (or more) and tell me how "impressed" you are.

Go build networks and set up information hubs in hostile areas like Iraq, and then go on some message board and hear some punk who hasn't done anything that closely resembles giving up their freedoms so others can have theirs and tell me how you feel.

No, that's too tough. You'll sit on your but and type on your stupid computer and pout around like every other disrespectful American that doesn't have enough courage to stand up for their country. You'll then spout off at the mouth about how "unimpressed" YOU are like YOU matter one bit to anyone. I'm not sure what you've done with your life but I highly doubt it's anything like what the men and women that have been through this training do for people like you every day. How about some respect for the people that give you your freedom?

Disrespecting military training is like spitting in the face of everyone that goes through it. You might as well say you're not impressed with the military and what they do for America because none of it could happen without the training they recieve. Once you sign up for a branch let me know when you get back from Basic so you can tell me how much training doesn't "Impress" YOU... Your a clueless joke man. Get a life.

[als463]

Originally Posted by MedInformatics

Do you even know what goes on in a military training facility? Little comments like that piss me off so much because I just assume you're some punk who thinks he knows everything and feels the need to put some arrogant comment out there like they know whats going on. Here's and idea maggot, go to Basic Military Training and technical training then come back and tell me what it's like.

Maybe you can go to a desert facility for 6 months of training so you can separate from your family for 15 months (or more) and tell me how "impressed" you are.

Go build networks and set up information hubs in hostile areas like Iraq, and then go on some message board and hear some punk who hasn't done anything that closely resembles giving up their freedoms so others can have theirs and tell me how you feel.

No, that's too tough. You'll sit on your but and type on your stupid computer and pout around like every other disrespectful American that doesn't have enough courage to stand up for their country. You'll then spout off at the mouth about how "unimpressed" YOU are like YOU matter one bit to anyone. I'm not sure what you've done with your life but I highly doubt it's anything like what the men and women that have been through this training do for people like you every day. How about some respect for the people that give you your freedom?

Disrespecting military training is like spitting in the face of everyone that goes through it. You might as well say you're not impressed with the military and what they do for America because none of it could happen without the training they recieve. Once you sign up for a branch let me know when you get back from Basic so you can tell me how much training doesn't "Impress" YOU... Your a clueless joke man. Get a life.

First, let me start by saying "Thank you for your service" to our country. I also want to say that I don't necessarily know if that's what Seurset was saying. Believe it or not-military training does not impress a whole lot of people. Think about it-MANY people join the military, daily. There are members of the military I have encountered that I wonder how they get themselves dressed in the morning without the assistance of others-they are that....ehhhhh....well....

Second, before you say that I am bashing the military-please know that I spent 9 years in the military. I was in both the Reserves and the National Guard. I am/ was a 96B/35F Military Intelligence Analyst. I served overseas during "Operation Iraqi Freedom" at the beginning of the war and I was pulled out of college (Penn State) to serve in Baghdad, Iraq. I have to admit that while it is great to have military experience, no one really gives a damn if I served 4 years, 6 years or 9 years-they just care that I served. Sure, being Military Intelligence has had its advantages but, not as much as being a Penn State Alum!

I really wish people would stop using the whole "I'm serving our country" and "Wouldn't you want someone who is in the military over someone with a traditional college education?" arguments because they don't hold up for me. I'm sorry but, I would rather have someone who had BOTH but, if I had a military man who graduated from a so-so school or a non-military man who graduated from a great nationally recognized school...You bet I'd choose the non-military man.

Please stop assuming that just because you join the military you have to attend a horrible school or do all of your classes online. It simply isn't true. In fact, my Professors and my uncle (who was a Professor at my University) all said not to really "play up" my military involvement for my law school applications. I even had Professors who are on the board of Admissions tell me that it was best not to focus on my military experience because while many people in Academia may not be anti-military...many of them are def. not pro-military. My boyfriend spent 6 years active Navy with 2 deployments to Iraq as a Hospital Corps. Man and now he is a full-time student at an incredible University...He did online courses at a great school and received his Associate's after getting out of the Navy and finishing the rest of the classes at that school's brick and mortar buildings.

Also, to say that having an online degree for certain programs like Education but, not Engineering is a bit messed up. I would rather my child's teacher take traditional classes (like all the teachers in my Masters of Education program did) then take online courses. Its important to interact with students. Do online courses serve a purpose? Yes. I'm happy for anyone that can get a great education (online or traditionally) through hard work.

[Senusret I]

Your mother is a maggot.

And military training still isn't impressive to me.

[oncegreek]

I am pursuing a Master's in Humanities, with an emphasis in literature via the Humanities External Program (HUX) at Cal State Dominguez Hills. It has been a wonderful experience. My instructors are every bit as challenging as those I worked with at my undergrad campus, UCSB.I have also received more personalized attention than I ever received as an undergraduate. My classmates are located all over the world. I am a teacher, and the credits I have earned have enhanced my earning potential, at a very reasonable price. I also earned my Professional Clear teaching credential through online learning. The online format may not be for everyone, but for some of us, it is invaluable.

[hermojo]

So the good 'ol boys network is still consumed by ego and narcissistic efforts to keep the doors closed to under represented segments of your community. Shame on you, I came here by accident while searching 'online ivy league' and your comments were some of the first things I saw in my search. Sadly, I thought membership in to a group was supposed to also include the mission of serving others. The online business school was a crap shoot and it grew legs: this model will now serve as the benchmark in the business of education. Yes, if you do not realize your ivy league degree is little more than an old way of doing business to make you feel elite: then you failed 'B' school. Maybe I can tutor you once I start taking Harvard Extension Classes: where industry leaders go to bone up you bone heads. For Shame.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by hermojo

So the good 'ol boys network is still consumed by ego and narcissistic efforts to keep the doors closed to under represented segments of your community. Shame on you, I came here by accident while searching 'online ivy league' and your comments were some of the first things I saw in my search. Sadly, I thought membership in to a group was supposed to also include the mission of serving others. The online business school was a crap shoot and it grew legs: this model will now serve as the benchmark in the business of education. Yes, if you do not realize your ivy league degree is little more than an old way of doing business to make you feel elite: then you failed 'B' school. Maybe I can tutor you once I start taking Harvard Extension Classes: where industry leaders go to bone up you bone heads. For Shame.

Who the hell are you talking to? No one has responded to this thread in 2 months.

For shame.

ETA: LOL @ folks saying "I was GOING to join a GLO, but NOW..." like we care.

[kddani]

Originally Posted by hermojo

So the good 'ol boys network is still consumed by ego and narcissistic efforts to keep the doors closed to under represented segments of your community. Shame on you, I came here by accident while searching 'online ivy league' and your comments were some of the first things I saw in my search. Sadly, I thought membership in to a group was supposed to also include the mission of serving others. The online business school was a crap shoot and it grew legs: this model will now serve as the benchmark in the business of education. Yes, if you do not realize your ivy league degree is little more than an old way of doing business to make you feel elite: then you failed 'B' school. Maybe I can tutor you once I start taking Harvard Extension Classes: where industry leaders go to bone up you bone heads. For Shame.

Great display of the kind of business leadership needed in today's world. Register for an online message board solely to defensively berate those who don't believe the same thing that you do.

You enjoy those classes for which all you had to do was pay money- not pass any admissions standards.

Saying you went to Harvard when in fact it's Harvard Extension School is like saying "oh, I work for NASA" when in fact you just empty the trash cans.

[LawProf]

Originally Posted by kddani

Great display of the kind of business leadership needed in today's world. Register for an online message board solely to defensively berate those who don't believe the same thing that you do.

You enjoy those classes for which all you had to do was pay money- not pass any admissions standards.

Saying you went to Harvard when in fact it's Harvard Extension School is like saying "oh, I work for NASA" when in fact you just empty the trash cans.

Rubbish, at least as applied to Harvard Extension graduates.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by hermojo

The online business school was a crap shoot and it grew legs: this model will now serve as the benchmark in the business of education. Yes, if you do not realize your ivy league degree is little more than an old way of doing business to make you feel elite: then you failed 'B' school. Maybe I can tutor you once I start taking Harvard Extension Classes: where industry leaders go to bone up you bone heads. For Shame.

Online business school is STILL a crap shoot. Or maybe just crap.

[kddani]

Originally Posted by hermojo

where industry leaders go to bone up you bone heads. For Shame.

Considering the state of the economy, those Harvard Extension classes sure must've served them well to get us in this mess.

Wonder what high profile "Captains of Industry" will be your classmates?

[tangelo212]

Originally Posted by hermojo

So the good 'ol boys network is still consumed by ego and narcissistic efforts to keep the doors closed to under represented segments of your community.

Originally Posted by hermojo

Yes, if you do not realize your ivy league degree is little more than an old way of doing business to make you feel elite:

Gag. This is one of those cliched crocks of crap that people try to use as an argument to cast vast generalizations upon those who are competing with them for jobs. "Oh, of course, it's just the good 'ol boys network."


On another note, I received an email just yesterday about "eCornell" as well as "distance learning." I am not sure what the distinction is because I haven't really researched it, but they do make a distinction between eCornell for online courses and certificates, and distance learning. I have the impression that eCornell does not offer actual degrees, but rather, courses to hone expertise in a specific area for career development.

Distance Learning for M.Eng in Systems Engineering

The eCornell page


In this debate, I think this is the bottom line (from the eCornell site):

Learning happens through interaction and collaboration–a dynamic, creative process that involves the exchange of ideas, not simply the accumulation of facts. In eCornell courses you interact with an expert instructor and a cohort of your peers to collectively develop knowledge, and to effectively apply that knowledge in your organization. [emphasis added]

[knight_shadow]

This is the thread that will not die...
Yes it goes on and on...but why?