perhaps this is true

[Erik P Conard]

I heard about three years ago there was a delegation who
approached the administration at Notre Dame about getting a chapter of Beta Theta Pi. It was a very brief meeting.
Something to the effect that if you so much as hint as starting a
fraternity you will be summarily expelled. What'll it be?
Any questions?
Maybe some of you Betas or someone can expound on this.
One campus, a few years back, was approached by TKE about a
group who were interested in beginning a greek system. The
president of the college wrote a letter to our headquarters saying
in essence, so long as I am president or until hell freezes over, whichever is the longest, there will be no fraternity system here.
So, you win some, you lose some. It is interesting to note there
are quite a few chapters across the country who are existing without recognition, and I have noted in some cases there has been an increase in membership! Bears watching and it is a very
touchy thing. A real brouhaha is going on at the U of Colorado and it is too soon to predict any outcome, but it stinks to holy hell,
and some of us old timers are indeed in a quandary. Many of the
nice old mansions, once greek, are now used by the college for a
number of things, so it is difficult to find land or obtain housing if
we do want to come back. This another reason many have gone
to the lodge direction. Oh how the colleges loved us in the 40s,
we provided housing...but when the legislatures began to fund the residences...how quickly they turned on us!
We might thank Dr Robert Maynard Hutchins of U of Chicago, who
managed to get most of the greeks off, create the atom bomb in
the old stadium facility, and today there is little of Chicago to hint
at a once-great and fun place. Revenge of the nerds!
If any of you have a chance to see a co-ed composite of one of the houses at Bowdoin...you will have to either laugh or throw up.

[ZZ-kai-]

Erik, interesting read (as always). But, I have never heard anything about Beta and Notre Dame, and I keep pretty good tabs on what is going on within our Broad Domain....that being said, there is always a chance it could have happened I guess...

[Tom Earp]

I actually have no doubt that Erik does speak what he knows.

Time fades a lot of memories about what happened, say, Back when.

What is funny is that some consider Notre Dame a Bastion of Roman Catholic Universitys, and never had Greek Organizations, there are many who do and seems not to bother them much.

But, N D seems to be in the for front of Sports and are highly recognized as such.

While it would be a Coup to be the First GLO on that campus, there are many others out there to Colonize on where GLOs are welcomed.

Funny, My Father was a Anglican Catholic and then a Methodist, N D was His Team. Go figure!

Maybe they just dont need GLOs as their School is so indoctrinated in other aspects.

[GA-Beta]

Some recent data re Notre Dame:

http://www.ndsmcobserver.com/media/p...mcobserver.com


http://www.ndsmcobserver.com/media/p...mcobserver.com

Unlikely even DKE could charter there

[sdbeta1]

I have heard mumblings to the same effect as Erick's. However, myself coming from a private Catholic university, can see how being the first GLO on Notre Dame's campus would be a sort of holy grail.