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Old 01-08-2008, 10:55 AM
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I think it relates to hazing because this was/is a fraternity known to haze their pledges. Someone else stated that hazing creates a sense of unity with the chapter. Since the president didn't even know the pledge, how did the hazing of the pledges create unity? (since if they were all united because of hazing, shouldn't the prez know the pledge?)


At least that's what I got out of it.
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Old 01-08-2008, 11:22 AM
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I think it relates to hazing because this was/is a fraternity known to haze their pledges. Someone else stated that hazing creates a sense of unity with the chapter. Since the president didn't even know the pledge, how did the hazing of the pledges create unity? (since if they were all united because of hazing, shouldn't the prez know the pledge?)

At least that's what I got out of it.
Everyone's group runs differently, for all we know this guy was prez in name only and was never around. Or, as cuteASAbug said, he just is stupid or bad with names. I don't think it's anything to get upset about.
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Old 01-08-2008, 12:37 PM
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Everyone's group runs differently, for all we know this guy was prez in name only and was never around. Or, as cuteASAbug said, he just is stupid or bad with names. I don't think it's anything to get upset about.
I wasn't upset (and I hope I didn't sound like I was), I was just trying to put the pieces together as to why not knowing your pledges has anything to do with hazing. Sorry if it sounded like I was upset!
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Old 01-08-2008, 12:43 PM
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I wasn't upset (and I hope I didn't sound like I was), I was just trying to put the pieces together as to why not knowing your pledges has anything to do with hazing. Sorry if it sounded like I was upset!
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Old 01-09-2008, 12:28 AM
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I'm not sure how long the president had to get to know all of his pledges......but that doesn't really sound like that big of a deal. I think it's taken me a while every year to get to know each pledge on a name/face basis, or at least the ones that I didn't help rush personally.
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Old 01-09-2008, 01:20 AM
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not everyone in my chapter knows everyone else but we are still sisters and we were hazed a little which helped us grow closer. who cares if the president didnt know a pledge? he was probably weird or something. nothing to do with hazing.
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Old 01-09-2008, 01:23 AM
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not everyone in my chapter knows everyone else but we are still sisters and we were hazed a little which helped us grow closer. who cares if the president didnt know a pledge? he was probably weird or something. nothing to do with hazing.
I can see how your chapter threatening to take you to standards becaue you wanted to be a rho gamma unified your chapter and brought it closer.
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Old 01-09-2008, 01:24 AM
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^^^Yes, I'm surprised to hear her chapter hazed "the pretty one".
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Old 01-09-2008, 01:29 AM
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well im not going to standards and that is not hazing at all that is chapter operations like the title of this thread so dont worry you two!!
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Old 01-10-2008, 04:25 PM
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OK, maybe it was because my chapter only had 55 members active at a time, but I find it strange that you wouldn't know all of your chapter members. How did you vote on new members to begin with? Call me old fashioned, but I made it a point of knowing every new member's name-no matter how many pledge classes were behind me. I may not have known their cat's name, or their favorite bedtime story as a kid, but I knew their name and a little about every sister. That is what creates unity. Talking, not...
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Old 01-10-2008, 05:18 PM
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OK, maybe it was because my chapter only had 55 members active at a time, but I find it strange that you wouldn't know all of your chapter members. How did you vote on new members to begin with?
In some groups, only the people who have actually met the person vote on him/her. I don't think anyone is going to tell you much more than that on here. How large are the groups at the school you're talking about?
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Old 01-10-2008, 05:54 PM
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I just looked it up. The chapters range between 40-60 members for the GLOs on campus.

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Old 01-10-2008, 06:25 PM
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I'm just going to go with the "this guy isn't the brightest crayon in the box" theory. I don't think a memory lapse is an indicator of the efficacy of a pledge program or chapter unity.
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Old 01-10-2008, 07:22 PM
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OK, maybe it was because my chapter only had 55 members active at a time, but I find it strange that you wouldn't know all of your chapter members. How did you vote on new members to begin with? Call me old fashioned, but I made it a point of knowing every new member's name-no matter how many pledge classes were behind me. I may not have known their cat's name, or their favorite bedtime story as a kid, but I knew their name and a little about every sister. That is what creates unity. Talking, not...
I do know all of my chapter members. A pledge isn't a member and I don't see why it's a huge deal to not know some of the pledges on a name/face basis at the beginning of their pledge period. I can easily get a sense of what kind of guy some kid is right off the bat without knowing his name. I'll learn them eventually.
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Old 01-10-2008, 10:03 PM
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I think the claim "hazing creates unity" applies to unity within the pledge class, and I'd like to add to that, isolation from the chapter. That would explain why the president didn't know the pledge.
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