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Old 02-02-2006, 11:45 PM
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Maybe.

Being the father of a highly adictive child, the culture in which they live, the friends they keep and their surroundings can be either very helpful or harmful.

It's too easy to simply write off the possibility that the use and amount of drugs available (maybe even at the SAE House) didn't have anything to do with this man's use and even the OD. There's no way for us to know.
I am an SAE at Texas and know many SAE's from UGA. For you to even mention the possibility of these drugs being found at the SAE house is extremely tasteless and wrong. That house was investigated and they found nothing. You are treading on hot water with that, and I am sure that members, alumni, and the like would be pretty damn upset that this kind of insinuation is being thrown around on the internet. That kid was obviously f----d up, he was doing heroin for Gods sake. Sure, there are plenty of people that drink and blow some coke every now and then, im guilty myself, but don't even try to pass some possibility that someone within the house was providing this dumbass with heroin and coke, or that it could easily be found or produced withing the compines of their house.

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Old 11-06-2007, 09:51 PM
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I am an SAE at Texas and know many SAE's from UGA. For you to even mention the possibility of these drugs being found at the SAE house is extremely tasteless and wrong. That house was investigated and they found nothing. You are treading on hot water with that, and I am sure that members, alumni, and the like would be pretty damn upset that this kind of insinuation is being thrown around on the internet. That kid was obviously f----d up, he was doing heroin for Gods sake. Sure, there are plenty of people that drink and blow some coke every now and then, im guilty myself, but don't even try to pass some possibility that someone within the house was providing this dumbass with heroin and coke, or that it could easily be found or produced withing the compines of their house.

I would appreciate if you wouldn't call my friend a dumbass. Show a little respect, dipshit.
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Old 11-06-2007, 09:56 PM
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I would appreciate if you wouldn't call my friend a dumbass. Show a little respect, dipshit.
If you pay closer attention, you'll see that saetex was banned.

Still, if you're demanding respect from someone, you tend to lose credibility when you call him 'dipshit' in the process.
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Old 11-06-2007, 11:22 PM
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If you pay closer attention, you'll see that saetex was banned.

Still, if you're demanding respect from someone, you tend to lose credibility when you call him 'dipshit' in the process.
And the prior last posting was almost 2 years ago.
And this is SaraSara's very first posting
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:33 AM
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Someone doing heroin deserves to be called a dumbass... It's an incredibly stupid (i.e. dumb) thing to do.
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Old 11-06-2007, 11:14 PM
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I would appreciate if you wouldn't call my friend a dumbass. Show a little respect, dipshit.
I wonder why the demand for respect is not only for a banned former member, but also twenty-one months after his post.

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I wonder why the demand for respect is not only for a banned former member, but also twenty-one months after his post.

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Maybe she Googled her friend's name, this GreekChat thread showed up, and she felt the need to go through the registration process to defend her friend's name?
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Old 02-03-2006, 12:23 AM
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this is definately a risk management issue. risk management is not just throwing 'proper parties' and having noone die after frat parties at your house. It's about managing risk, such as alcohol and drugs, and how they affect your chapter and members. its about alcohol and drug education within a chapter and holding brothers and sisters accountable and looking out for one another.

i really hope that some of this kids brothers were trying to reach out to him and help him because a kid in his dorm knew he partied hard. i would hope his brothers could see it and would try to help him. the optimist in me knows they had to have been trying.
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Old 02-03-2006, 01:09 AM
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this is definately a risk management issue. risk management is not just throwing 'proper parties' and having noone die after frat parties at your house. It's about managing risk, such as alcohol and drugs, and how they affect your chapter and members. its about alcohol and drug education within a chapter and holding brothers and sisters accountable and looking out for one another.

i really hope that some of this kids brothers were trying to reach out to him and help him because a kid in his dorm knew he partied hard. i would hope his brothers could see it and would try to help him. the optimist in me knows they had to have been trying.
if you are doing heroin, chances are you are not going to keep it a secret with the exception of a few of your friends. i have talked to some of my friends that are sae's at georgia and they all said that he would have had his badge removed if they new that he was doing heroin.
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Old 02-03-2006, 10:30 AM
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Maybe.

Being the father of a highly adictive child, the culture in which they live, the friends they keep and their surroundings can be either very helpful or harmful.

It's too easy to simply write off the possibility that the use and amount of drugs available (maybe even at the SAE House) didn't have anything to do with this man's use and even the OD. There's no way for us to know.
That's not really what I was saying. I'm saying that marijauna is not addictive. And that if you do coke, heroin, etc. its not because you smoked pot. They arrested those kids b/c all drugs are lumped into one category by the DEA, which is wrong.
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Old 02-03-2006, 10:41 AM
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I am an SAE at Texas and know many SAE's from UGA. For you to even mention the possibility of these drugs being found at the SAE house is extremely tasteless and wrong. That house was investigated and they found nothing. You are treading on hot water with that, and I am sure that members, alumni, and the like would be pretty damn upset that this kind of insinuation is being thrown around on the internet. That kid was obviously f----d up, he was doing heroin for Gods sake. Sure, there are plenty of people that drink and blow some coke every now and then, im guilty myself, but don't even try to pass some possibility that someone within the house was providing this dumbass with heroin and coke, or that it could easily be found or produced withing the compines of their house.
A. Watch your language. You're violating the terms of service which you signed when you joined GC. Play that game in other forums, but not in this one.

B. I didn't accuse anything, but said "maybe" even in the house. If drugs were present, it wouldn't be the first time for a fraternity and won't be the last. The comment was generic.

C. Where there's smoke, there is often fire. Chapter members where charged with some minor offenses. That does NOT mean that there is a problem at the house -- it also doesn't mean there isn't.

D. You should try thinking before you write. You just admitted to breaking the law in a public forum that anyone can read.

I'm happy to talk about any risk management issue -- which this is.
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Old 02-03-2006, 10:45 AM
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[i]I'm saying that marijauna is not addictive. And that if you do coke, heroin, etc. its not because you smoked pot.[/B]
I understand. I think my daughter would say, though, that being around the culture can lead from use of one drug to use of another -- addictive or not.
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Old 02-03-2006, 11:31 AM
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I understand. I think my daughter would say, though, that being around the culture can lead from use of one drug to use of another -- addictive or not.
Couldn't you say that about a lot of things? Like sex and rock & roll?

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Old 02-03-2006, 12:01 PM
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Couldn't you say that about a lot of things? Like sex and rock & roll?

-Rudey
--Get it? Sex, drugs, and rock & roll!
Got it.

Sure you could. That's the point. Simply because one thing isn't physically addictive doesn't mean it won't have adverse effects on other people.
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Old 02-03-2006, 05:39 PM
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While there have been many studies Pro and Con, it is still beleived that one drug can lead to another.

So for a Brother SAE from another Chapter to say that He has talked to Brothers from another Chapter does not mean it was not true, with a maybe or could be happening within the confines of a building called the house.

Fact: It happened.

Fact: The Young Man is Dead.

Rudey, My Man are You getting More Sex because You listen to Rock and Roll?

Oh My!
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