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Old 09-12-2002, 08:39 AM
Erik P Conard Erik P Conard is offline
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excellent...

your posted reply was excellent and it further explained, only much better, what I felt. Do not deny a good man a chance
to be a Greek. Fraternally, Erik P Conard, TKE
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Old 05-27-2003, 06:33 PM
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Old 05-27-2003, 10:42 PM
Tom Earp Tom Earp is offline
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ZEKE thanks for the bump!

What Eric Conard is trying to say, that if a house cannot support itself, they will be gone.

He is well aware of the situation as The TKE Chapter was closed at my Alma Mater. He had be the advisor there before!

He has worked with Chapters all over the country. He is what is called speaking from experience not just blathering.

Chapters run in cycles. Up Down, Up Down.

I never was one to be down on smaller chapters on a campus unless they are fighting against strong numbers of other groups!

What I am against, is that there are Houses with so many people that they can never know their own members! These over huge house are keeping women away from other Houses who may be having trouble and they then leave capmus!

That would be a proud moment wouldnt it??

It saddens me anytime a Greek Org. leaves a campus!
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Old 05-28-2003, 02:42 PM
BSUPhiSig'92 BSUPhiSig'92 is offline
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As an idiot Greek Advisor...

The vast majority of Greek Advisors are members of a fraternity or sorority. While given there are some idiots in every profession, the vast majority of us would love to expand our Greek communities on our campuses. The reality is, many of us are hamstrung by upper-level administrators who don't care for Greek Life, and would rather see it slowly die than flourish. There are many of us who work dilligently to assist all our chapters on our campuses, especially the struggling ones. Every year I push my bosses for expansion only to be told no, they see no need for it. We are a commuter institution with 10,000 undergraduates and less than 4% Greek, yet time and again my bosses hold up the example of the national fraternity that established a colony that folded a year later (a very poorly managed expansion I might add). Anyway, the issue often lies higher up the chain of command than "Our idiot Greek Advisor won't let us expand."
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Old 05-28-2003, 07:19 PM
Erik P Conard Erik P Conard is offline
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Expanding our system

BSU-Phi Sig...your excellent analysis, as fits your campus, is a well-thought-out presentation. SIU, Edwardsville, for example, is one of those extension schools, commuter-historically, that
we have tried to "fit" into. It will never have a system like, say, the
Washington U (private school) or even Truman State (an overhauled teachers' college). You will experience a somewhat
neighbor hostitly as your house, if you have one, will be smack-
dab in the middle of a residential area. The drawing-power of your chapter will have to be oriented differently than the typical
GLO chapter, and each school will be different.
HOWEVER, you can still offer a good fraternity experience, love
your brothers and cherish the opportunity, for the college will not
give a rat's ass much more than offering a drive-thru, fast food- type education...no offense intended, that is simply how it is.
BUT...you can encourage the formation of locals, and they in turn
can petition the poobahs for recognition. You need not wait for the roast duck to drop from the sky. The college administrators will not help you and that is not their "job."
SO, take the reins yourselves. Hug your advisors, they have a very thankless job, and get busy.
The experience of building a custom-made system will give you a step up on leadership when you get out.
Fraternity is for life...drink from the flagon of the greatest youth movement ever...you will savor it always. Now-- GET BUSY!
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