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Old 03-31-2008, 03:40 PM
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my daughter is going thru rush this fall and I have recs lined up for her so far at Phi Mu, KD, Tri Delta... she is a double legacy Phi Mu and I would be upset if Phi Mu cut her. I would not be upset if she chose another sorority though. I guess that is a double standard? Oh well I just hope she finds the one she really loves if she decides to join one at all. It is completely up to her.
No, that's understandable. But as long as you adopt the "if she's happy I'm happy" attitude that's what matters. Good luck to your daughter!
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:17 PM
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Oh well I just hope she finds the one she really loves if she decides to join one at all. It is completely up to her. She will be attending a recruitment reception in a couple of weeks. Maybe she will learn something about each of the sororities then.
That's my feeling. I've had my daughter and niece go through recruitment and my biological sister coming up. I'm still very active, locally and nationally, and all of them are aware of it. My daughter and my niece have both attended open events with other actives and alums and enjoyed it immensely (my sister lives some distance away so couldn't attend).

When my daughter went to college, she was very eager for recruitment. She went to a school where we don't have a chapter, but I encouraged her to go through even though she had no real knowledge of the other GLOs. She went thru as a first semester freshman and was cut after first rounds. She was upset a bit, but also taken aback by how fast paced recruitment was, so it didn't bother her too much. She decided to go through informal in the spring and soon found out why she was cut the previous semester. After the first round of events, she ran into a sister from one of the GLO's in a bar near school. The girl was a little tipsy and point black told my daughter that she needed to drop out of rush because no one was going to bid "some handicapped chick." My daughter was upset at first, then angry. And I was both angry and horrified. My daughter eventually went through AI with Theta Phi. (Don't jump on the AI part...there's a whole different thread about that!)

When my niece went to college (she's not considered a legacy by our standards), I was thrilled she was going where we had a chapter. I was a bit of a nudge about her going through recruitment I really wanted her to go through because you can't know about it unless you do, right? When she got to her prefs, I got a phone call - did I care if she went somewhere else? I told her the same thing I told my daughter - if you choose a house and the house chooses you, I don't care which it is. Just let me know when your fund raisers and philanthropies are. That put her at ease a bit, I think. I'm pleased to say that she's now a Theta Phi sister.

I don't think a legacy should be cut just because she's a legacy elsewhere. But I have one argument that I haven't seen here (if it is, sorry I missed it!) I fully understand that the chapter wants a good fit, but I'm sure many of you have had the "psycho sister" or "sister from hell" experience. And sometimes those psycho sisters turn out to grow up and be wonderful and active alums, giving more time and money to the chapter and organization as a whole than anyone would have ever thought possible. (I know there was at least one of those when I was active!) And the last time I checked, we're members for life, not just for a couple years in college. That shy legacy who was kinda quiet and took AP Calculus her junior year in high school? Who's to say she couldn't end up being National Treasurer one day. I'm not saying that legacies deserve any more preferential treatment than they already get. But maybe a look from a different perspective. That actually could go for any PNM.

Sorry so long winded. Couldn't spit it out any other way.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:37 PM
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But I have one argument that I haven't seen here (if it is, sorry I missed it!) I fully understand that the chapter wants a good fit, but I'm sure many of you have had the "psycho sister" or "sister from hell" experience. And sometimes those psycho sisters turn out to grow up and be wonderful and active alums, giving more time and money to the chapter and organization as a whole than anyone would have ever thought possible. (I know there was at least one of those when I was active!) And the last time I checked, we're members for life, not just for a couple years in college.
But the thing is - college is when you're going to be living with the psycho and dealing with the psycho on a regular basis. It's not worth saying "maybe she'll be faboo when she's 30" if she's going to make your whole collegiate sorority experience miserable and cause a divide in your chapter. And some of these "psycho sisters" we've referenced - that's EXACTLY what they do. We're not talking about little quirks like someone who never replaces the toilet paper.

I think that unhoused (or undormed) chapters can probably accept a greater diversity of women than those that are housed - if you don't have to live with someone they have to do quite a bit more to drive you nuts.
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Old 03-31-2008, 03:43 PM
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Old 07-07-2009, 04:08 PM
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KDlady80, legacies are extended a great deal of courtesy. I suspect that many of scary posts you read are the extreme horror stories and not the norm.

Like KSUViolet said, keep in mind that a lot depends on which organization you are talking about on which campus. In my own GLO some Chapters would be ecstatic if 2-3 legacies went through recruitment. In other places there are 2x quota worth of legacies participating. Even if they wanted to they can't extend bids to every legacy because the numbers simply won't allow it.
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Old 07-07-2009, 03:17 PM
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What is a GLO?
GLO = Greek Lettered Organization

We use GLO when we don't feel like typing out "sorority."
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Old 07-07-2009, 03:37 PM
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Oh, Thanks. Have a question for all of you. Does it make a difference if a legacy is rushing at her mother or grandmothers chapter of initiation?
No one can say for sure.

I can tell you for sure that no legacy is guaranteed a bid.

I have heard of girls at larger schools being cut regularly by their mom's or grandma's legacy chapter.

It all boils down to the fact that no chapter can really guarantee anything.

No PNM is a "for sure" in.

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Old 07-07-2009, 03:57 PM
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Oh, Thanks. Have a question for all of you. Does it make a difference if a legacy is rushing at her mother or grandmothers chapter of initiation?
from things i have seen and heard, it does not. the exception might be if the mother, grandmother, aunt, sister was a high ranking national officer or the sister was still in the house.

i don't mean to cause you any concern, but just know that there are no guarantees. i am sure that you have done all you can to help your daughter prepare for recruitment and i hope that she finds the house of her dreams.
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Old 07-07-2009, 03:43 PM
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Good to know. Thanks.

FYI: If you go back and read the threads discussing recruitment at some of the bigger SEC schools (I recall Bama, Auburn and UGA specifically but I know there are others), there are threads FULL of moms who came here for a shoulder to cry on after their daughter was cut by their legacy chapter.

It's better to be prepared and know that it happens (even if it doesn't), than to be blindsided and confused if it does.
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Old 07-07-2009, 04:25 PM
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One thing I am somewhat concerned about is the the other sororities will see that she is a legacy to another sorority and cut her. Does this actully happen?
It happens. No one can say whether it will happen for your daughter or not. Whether she will choose to list her legacy status is up to her.

Most well-prepared PNMs receive bids. However, they do not always get bids to their first choice chapter, legacy chapter, etc. That's part of life.

Just relax and let the chips fall where they may.
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Old 07-07-2009, 07:45 PM
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It happens. No one can say whether it will happen for your daughter or not. Whether she will choose to list her legacy status is up to her.

Most well-prepared PNMs receive bids. However, they do not always get bids to their first choice chapter, legacy chapter, etc. That's part of life.

Just relax and let the chips fall where they may.
It does happen, but I'd think it's more likely to happen if the legacy is rushing while her sister is in school or shortly after her sister leaves, since you don't have the choice of telling people if you're a legacy. A grandmother legacy is up to you to list. I believe ICS (common recruitment software) only shows a chapter its own legacies instead of everyone's legacies. However, if your rec writers include her legacy information on their rec forms, this is how other chapters find out if your daughter doesn't directly tell a chapter member during recruitment.
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Old 07-10-2009, 11:26 AM
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A grandmother legacy is up to you to list.
Plus...not all NPC groups include granddaughters as legacies.
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