Ann Coulter tells the truth on "registered Democratic voters."

[Rudey]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
But Britain sent them. In Vietnam, Canada didn't.

A Canadian Soldier is a member of the Canadian military.

A Canadian who is a soldier could be an American soldier, or a British Soldier or whatever kind of soldier -- even a mercenary. But she or he isn't a Canadian soldier.

Argue it any way you want, but there is still a big difference.

You could use a brush-up on semantics; William Safire writes some great pieces on the English language.

As you seem to refuse to see the points I am making for your own reasons, I will fall back on my grandfather's advice and simply say, "You're right."

-Rudey

[RACooper]

Originally posted by Rudey
You could use a brush-up on semantics; William Safire writes some great pieces on the English language.

As you seem to refuse to see the points I am making for your own reasons, I will fall back on my grandfather's advice and simply say, "You're right."

-Rudey

So Rudey following your "semantics" would you argue that British soldiers were in Vietnam? Or how about German soldiers?

Oh... as for prosecuting Canadians who served in Vietnam... um some were - if it was shown that they may have been involved in War Crimes the government went after them (or would have if they had come back to Canada) - and example of this would have been the two "Canadians" that participated in My Lai - they have yet to return to Canada, most likely becuase of the threat of legal action against them.

Interesting that you didn't respond to the evicerating of your "only memorial this century" arguement... did you get that 'fact' from FOXNews?

Finally there is a huge difference between a town or city granting cheap land for a memorial and official Federal recognition of said memorial - although if it helps you defend Coulter's ignorance feel free to cling to this straw...

[Rudey]

Rob don't piss me off. I am going to start posting some heavy stuff against you if you don't stop.

And yes, if there were Germans who were soldiers in Vietnam, there were German soldiers there. I didn't say that the German army sent their men there to fight.

And they were not prosecuted for being in Vietnam. What a stupid thing to say. Why don't you just tell me about the ones that were prosecuted for robbery when they came back from Vietnam?? Being prosecuted for war crimes or robbery is not being prosecuted for fighting in Vietnam. Why don't you just tell me that the dirt in Toronto is brown, because that's as irrelevant as that point.

And no I didn't make an argument for it being the only memorial. The Canadian government needs to invest more money into its education system to help men like you learn proper English. I even asked a question. And where did I get the info? Through reading on my own, probably from Daily Kos.

You can keep bashing America and Fox news but you have nothing. I didn't say Ann was right. I simply pointed out that there were over 30,000 Canadian soldiers in Vietnam, while their government "served as accessory to the crime" and later subsidized their memorial.

Again, keep up your snide remarks this week and I can start having some real fun.

-Rudey

Originally posted by RACooper
So Rudey following your "semantics" would you argue that British soldiers were in Vietnam? Or how about German soldiers?

Oh... as for prosecuting Canadians who served in Vietnam... um some were - if it was shown that they may have been involved in War Crimes the government went after them (or would have if they had come back to Canada) - and example of this would have been the two "Canadians" that participated in My Lai - they have yet to return to Canada, most likely becuase of the threat of legal action against them.

Interesting that you didn't respond to the evicerating of your "only memorial this century" arguement... did you get that 'fact' from FOXNews?

Finally there is a huge difference between a town or city granting cheap land for a memorial and official Federal recognition of said memorial - although if it helps you defend Coulter's ignorance feel free to cling to this straw...

[RACooper]

Originally posted by Rudey
Rob don't piss me off. I am going to start posting some heavy stuff against you if you don't stop.

Be as threatening as you want - you'll find I don't react well to threats. But go ahead and post your "heavy" stuff... if it's as factual/logical as the rest of your posts in this thread then I really don't have to worry at all do I?

And yes, if there were Germans who were soldiers in Vietnam, there were German soldiers there. I didn't say that the German army sent their men there to fight.

Okay earlier you stated that Canada the country sents troops to Vietnam... so according to this "air-tight" logic of yours Germany, UK, Italy, heck even Switzerland sent troops...

And they were not prosecuted for being in Vietnam. What a stupid thing to say. Why don't you just tell me about the ones that were prosecuted for robbery when they came back from Vietnam?? Being prosecuted for war crimes or robbery is not being prosecuted for fighting in Vietnam. Why don't you just tell me that the dirt in Toronto is brown, because that's as irrelevant as that point.

See again you're wrong - every Canadian citizen that served in the Vietnam War is a criminal according to the Canadian government... see there's this law thingy that prohibits citizens from taking up arms against a friendly nation.

So in the case of Vietnam those citizens that served in the US Army were in violation of the Foreign Enlistment Act of 1937 (enacted because of Spainsih Civil War):
Any person, who being a Canadian national, whether within or residing outside Canada voluntarily accepts or agrees to accept any commission or engagement in the armed forces of any foreign state at war with any friendly state.... is guilty of an offense of this act.

To avoid prosecution many Canadians renouced their citizenship - or even lied on their applications in order to protect themselves from prosecution by giving false US place of birth location.

And no I didn't make an argument for it being the only memorial. The Canadian government needs to invest more money into its education system to help men like you learn proper English. I even asked a question. And where did I get the info? Through reading on my own, probably from Daily Kos.

You can keep bashing America and Fox news but you have nothing. I didn't say Ann was right. I simply pointed out that there were over 30,000 Canadian soldiers in Vietnam, while their government "served as accessory to the crime" and later subsidized their memorial.

Oooooh stop using the O'Reilly pattern of data manipulation (or fabrication) when making an arguement...

Up to 30,000 Canadians in the US military, of which 10,000 may have served in Vietnam is a far cry from your assertion of 30,000 Canadians in Vietnam....

As for the government "funding" a memorial let me understand this then...

So if US citizens commision and pay for the memorial and the city of Windsor allows them to purchase a space within a municpal park that means that the Federal government some how recognized and subsidized the memorial?

As for the Canadian government "serving as an accessory to the crime" are you saying/admiting that Vietnam was a criminal war? - oh-oh the neo-cons are going to have to drag you away for re-education... or do you mean to say that Canada was an assessor to the criminal act commited by those citizens who served in Vietnam by not blocking the construction of the memorial - or by the granting of an amnesty back in the late 80's to those citizens?

Again, keep up your snide remarks this week and I can start having some real fun.

-Rudey

Perhaps you can learn a little from visiting the site of those who built the memorial:
http://www.geocities.com/pentagon/5344/cvvm.html

They seem to have a slightly better grasp of the facts than the site you read earlier...

[BobbyTheDon]

Originally posted by RACooper


Be as threatening as you want - you'll find I don't react well to threats.

Sure dude. You're the one who threatened him a while back.

[Rudey]

Actually you are the only person on here to make threats.

And you have a history of lying. Of course this lying can be insignificant but you complement it with insults and jabs at America and anyone not conservative.

Again, over 30,000 Canadians fought in the Vietnam war. Check the CBC before making up lies and accusing me of things. I don't watch O'Reilly. I watch television rarely.

Again, the Canadian government knew and did nothing. They served as an accomplice.

Again, the Canadian government subsidized a memorial for them.

You obviously want to play so here:

"Your constant stream of lies and you’re inability to acknowledge reality makes you a laughing stock both at the chapter and Alumni level...Threatening the chapter or attacking members will not longer be tolerated. If you continue to harass the chapter or Alumni Board in any fashion, I will be forced to contact the Police and file for a restraining order.

Again, You've been told in Exec, you've been told as a friend, now you're being told by someone that has lost any and all respect for you. LEAVE THE CHAPTER ALONE ! " That was a quote from a Mr. Hadley of your chapter.

Well not only are you wrong but you just have to insult and you have to push it.

-Rudey
--Enjoy your push back.

Originally posted by RACooper


Be as threatening as you want - you'll find I don't react well to threats. But go ahead and post your "heavy" stuff... if it's as factual/logical as the rest of your posts in this thread then I really don't have to worry at all do I?

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Okay earlier you stated that Canada the country sents troops to Vietnam... so according to this "air-tight" logic of yours Germany, UK, Italy, heck even Switzerland sent troops...

[/b]

See again you're wrong - every Canadian citizen that served in the Vietnam War is a criminal according to the Canadian government... see there's this law thingy that prohibits citizens from taking up arms against a friendly nation.

So in the case of Vietnam those citizens that served in the US Army were in violation of the Foreign Enlistment Act of 1937 (enacted because of Spainsih Civil War):
Any person, who being a Canadian national, whether within or residing outside Canada voluntarily accepts or agrees to accept any commission or engagement in the armed forces of any foreign state at war with any friendly state.... is guilty of an offense of this act.

To avoid prosecution many Canadians renouced their citizenship - or even lied on their applications in order to protect themselves from prosecution by giving false US place of birth location.

[/b]

Oooooh stop using the O'Reilly pattern of data manipulation (or fabrication) when making an arguement...

Up to 30,000 Canadians in the US military, of which 10,000 may have served in Vietnam is a far cry from your assertion of 30,000 Canadians in Vietnam....

As for the government "funding" a memorial let me understand this then...

So if US citizens commision and pay for the memorial and the city of Windsor allows them to purchase a space within a municpal park that means that the Federal government some how recognized and subsidized the memorial?

As for the Canadian government "serving as an accessory to the crime" are you saying/admiting that Vietnam was a criminal war? - oh-oh the neo-cons are going to have to drag you away for re-education... or do you mean to say that Canada was an assessor to the criminal act commited by those citizens who served in Vietnam by not blocking the construction of the memorial - or by the granting of an amnesty back in the late 80's to those citizens?



Perhaps you can learn a little from visiting the site of those who built the memorial:
http://www.geocities.com/pentagon/5344/cvvm.html

They seem to have a slightly better grasp of the facts than the site you read earlier... [/B]

[RACooper]

Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
Sure dude. You're the one who threatened him a while back.

Yep after he called me a peadophile, child molestor, a snuff film maker, a racist, an anti-semite, a coward, insulted my nation, my service, my then girlfriend (I believe the term race-traitor was bandied about), my family, my education, etc...

Alright maybe I should have clarified and said I don't take threats or constant insults well... or perhaps I should just stick with the statement "I don't suffer fools lightly"

[Rudey]

Originally posted by RACooper
Yep after he called me a peadophile, child molestor, a snuff film maker, a racist, an anti-semite, a coward, insulted my nation, my service, my then girlfriend (I believe the term race-traitor was bandied about), my family, my education, etc...

Alright maybe I should have clarified and said I don't take threats or constant insults well... or perhaps I should just stick with the statement "I don't suffer fools lightly"

Again, you're lying and making accusations.

Given that your fraternity members are tired of the lying, the accusations, the threats...perhaps you should realize you are not "the good guy" and you surely have no credibility.

-Rudey

[BobbyTheDon]

Originally posted by Rudey
Again, you're lying and making accusations.

Given that your fraternity members are tired of the lying, the accusations, the threats...perhaps you should realize you are not "the good guy" and you surely have no credibility.

-Rudey

What lies were his fraternity members tired of, and what accusations and threats do you speak of?

I need to know because I am just that nosey. I also believe most of greekchat would like to know because they are also just that nosey.

[RACooper]

Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
What lies were his fraternity members tired of, and what accusations and threats do you speak of?

I need to know because I am just that nosey. I also believe most of greekchat would like to know because they are also just that nosey.

Sorry I can't help you out - mainly because I didn't get the email

Anyways the matter it looks like it discusses involved a private chapter matter, and as such I won't talk about it now that it has been resolved.

[Lindz928]

Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
I also believe most of greekchat would like to know because they are also just that nosey.

I think you are probably right about this.