What Not to Say to a Released PNM

[Sciencewoman]

The on-line recruitment FAQs state "Panhellenic has established..." twice, but who knows? The university has also established a minimum 2.5 GPA for new members during the "pledging" semester, with a mandated advisor meeting and academic improvement seminar for those below. Chapter are fined $50 for any new member who is below a 2.5 and does not follow through with these requirements. We have questioned/challenged this policy, but it still stands for now. The 2.6 minimum for recruitment may be related to the other policy.

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by Sciencewoman

The on-line recruitment FAQs state "Panhellenic has established..." twice, but who knows? The university has also established a minimum 2.5 GPA for new members during the "pledging" semester, with a mandated advisor meeting and academic improvement seminar for those below. Chapter are fined $50 for any new member who is below a 2.5 and does not follow through with these requirements. We have questioned/challenged this policy, but it still stands for now. The 2.6 minimum for recruitment may be related to the other policy.

Can anyone who knows more about the MOI comment on this? Is it common for a university or the CPC to put rules in place that violate the MOI or is there more "flexibility" in the agreement than I naively think there is?

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by thetalady

Can anyone who knows more about the MOI comment on this? Is it common for a university or the CPC to put rules in place that violate the MOI or is there more "flexibility" in the agreement than I naively think there is?

It's not common, but sometimes it happens. For example, Tufts guarantees a bid to any woman who signs up for recruitment, per the university's policy. The NPC groups don't like it, but go along with it.

[AGDee]

And there are schools that demand a shortened new member period (think... 3 weeks). They say that first semester freshmen can't join a sorority/fraternity.

[AGDLynn]

In the "near" future, it's gonna be Pref Day, Bid Day, New Member ceremony, Initiation Day in the same week.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by AGDLynn

In the "near" future, it's gonna be Pref Day, Bid Day, New Member ceremony, Initiation Day in the same week.

Some fraternities already do this, and it's worked out very well for some chapters. I would love to see more groups doing things along the lines of Sig Ep's Balanced Man program.

[AnchorAlumna]

Originally Posted by AGDLynn

In the "near" future, it's gonna be Pref Day, Bid Day, New Member ceremony, Initiation Day in the same week.

I sincerely hope not.

[HQWest]

Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna

I sincerely hope not.

Umm - while that would eliminate big/lil drama - wouldn't that mean that all the little chickadees that dont "feel the love" on the first day would have to quit bid day or right after initiation?

[ForeverRoses]

Originally Posted by HQWest

Umm - while that would eliminate big/lil drama - wouldn't that mean that all the little chickadees that dont "feel the love" on the first day would have to quit bid day or right after initiation?

can you imagine all the special snowflakes complaining that they can't join a different group because they were initiated on bid day? or the questions of "even though I was initiated, I just didn't understand what was going on, so can I join another sorority???"

it's bad enough when it is a 6 week new member program...

[KSUViolet06]

^^^^^Not to toot our horn, but this is why I love our Essential Sigma program. It's all about continuous member development (member ed sequence for every year, even seniors) as opposed to solely NM ed.

/hi-jack.

[DPhiE_MaddieB]

I only wish I had seen this thread a few months ago, it would have helped me out a lot! My best friend was going through Formal Recruitment at her school, just to give some background on her she has a 4.16 GPA, is in the Honors program at her school, is about to be the president of her Honors GLO as a sophomore, has a full academic scholarship that is extremely hard to obtain, and didn't go through Recruitment as a freshman because she won a HUGE pageant back home that had her coming home every weekend for different events she had to be present for as the holder of that title. She has never not been mentioned for interview in ANY of the pageants she has been in, has held over 30 different titles, won State in GISA extemporaneous speaking when we were in high school, was a cheerleader, competitive dancer, One Act play member, Beta club president, Miss Southwest Georgia Academy (teacher selected head female senior superlative), and our valedictorian. Needless to say I NEVER thought that the morning of her Pref I would get a call from her saying she got that infamous Pi Chi call. I had no clue what to say. And her Pi Chi didn't do a whole lot to help. I just don't want her to be completely turned off to Greek life, because she would be an asset to ANY chapter of any sorority, and I have no double interest because my organization doesn't have a chapter at her school. Any advice to get her to try COB?

[adpiucf]

Originally Posted by DPhiE_MaddieB

I only wish I had seen this thread a few months ago, it would have helped me out a lot! My best friend was going through Formal Recruitment at her school, just to give some background on her she has a 4.16 GPA, is in the Honors program at her school, is about to be the president of her Honors GLO as a sophomore, has a full academic scholarship that is extremely hard to obtain, and didn't go through Recruitment as a freshman because she won a HUGE pageant back home that had her coming home every weekend for different events she had to be present for as the holder of that title. She has never not been mentioned for interview in ANY of the pageants she has been in, has held over 30 different titles, won State in GISA extemporaneous speaking when we were in high school, was a cheerleader, competitive dancer, One Act play member, Beta club president, Miss Southwest Georgia Academy (teacher selected head female senior superlative), and our valedictorian. Needless to say I NEVER thought that the morning of her Pref I would get a call from her saying she got that infamous Pi Chi call. I had no clue what to say. And her Pi Chi didn't do a whole lot to help. I just don't want her to be completely turned off to Greek life, because she would be an asset to ANY chapter of any sorority, and I have no double interest because my organization doesn't have a chapter at her school. Any advice to get her to try COB?

Honestly, I'd just let it go and let her do her own thing. I'm sure your friend is wonderful, beautiful, smart, and accomplished, but it seems quite strange that someone with that many accolades and attributes would be dropped. Perhaps she rubbed some people the wrong way during her freshman year. Feel free to mention COB, but she sounds like she has a lot of great things going on and she'll do well at her school with or without sorority life.

[IndianaSigKap]

She also might be at a school with a competitive recruitment and ranked some chapters more highly than chapters she was more suited for in reality. Some chapters may have felt she was too involved in other organizations and may not have much time to devote to the chapter. Some chapters do not take sophomores to keep their classes even. Who knows? You could let her know about COB and what it's like, but ultimately it's her decision.

[DPhiE_MaddieB]

Thank you all! I really appreciate the advice and its nice to hear explanations from more "recruitment seasoned" sorority members. I have only just gotten through my first as a sister this fall.

[carnation]

I thought I would bump this, having heard some sad stories recently. It started out quite awhile back but some things never change.