What's Goin' In Mexico?

[Tom Earp]

WOW, A Black Out Alert.

I thought it was in very bad taste for sure, but it is South of The Border of USA!

I thought Aunt Jamimeih was a neat lady who said use this syrup, it is the best and it was!

Well other than History Being What it is, there is not much that can be said is there.

[RACooper]

You gotta wonder about how f*ck'ed up the government agency that thought this was a good idea - how stupid, bigotted, and ignorant do you have to be to approve this... or not realise its offensive nature.

[PhiPsiRuss]

Originally posted by Tom Earp
WOW, A Black Out Alert.

I thought it was in very bad taste for sure, but it is South of The Border of USA!

I thought Aunt Jamimeih was a neat lady who said use this syrup, it is the best and it was!

Well other than History Being What it is, there is not much that can be said is there.

1) Open mouth.
2) Insert foot.

[jubilance1922]

Originally posted by ambición6
yes my mom is going to buy them. and i am going to sell them (and maybe someone is going to buy them) and so what? all this PC crap is annoying

and before i get lectured on how its racist and ignorant blah blah blah, i say whats good for the goose, is good for the gander. alot of people in this country still consider many Mexicans as "wetbacks" or "illegals" or "go back to your own damn country" but you don't see me getting all dramatic about it. you just shrug your shoulders and move on.

shyt it's hard enough being a woman, and working in a corporate environment without having to be looked down on by other minorities (we are in the same boat -but I still get the 'she's just here because she's hispanic' bs)

i can understand why this might be drama if the US issued these stamps, but Mexico doesn't have the same history with black racism as the US does. god, my mom's nickname is "La More" which is short for Morena, which is "darker one". but its a term of endearment. that's the culture and it's not that big of a deal (to me or my family).

christ, its not like they pulled a proposition 187 like the US did. they're just stamps.

Wow. You're response is saddening. As a minority, I would have thought that you would have seen and related to this type of behavior, and found it deplorable. Yet you condone it? That is troubling to me. These types of images have been used for years to redicule and dehumanize my people, and yes, it has occured in places other than the US. To simply push it under the rug and try to rationalize it is unacceptable.

If this was a situation where Latino stereotypes were used, would you feel the same way?

[PhiPsiRuss]

Originally posted by jubilance1922
As a minority, I would have thought that you would have seen and related to this type of behavior, and found it deplorable.

If she wasn't an ethnic minority, would you have thought that she would have found this acceptable?

[jubilance1922]

Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
If she wasn't an ethnic minority, would you have thought that she would have found this acceptable?

No. I didn't say that.

In my personal experience (read: my life) I have found that people can relate better if they share a common experience. For example, if you and I both broke our legs as children, we could probably relate better to the pain of a broken limb than we could with someone who has never broken a bone.

I know what it feels like to be discriminated against, be called racist names, etc. That's one reason why I would never stand for that type of behavior towards another group (there are other reasons as well).

[PhiPsiRuss]

Originally posted by jubilance1922
No. I didn't say that.

In my personal experience (read: my life) I have found that people can relate better if they share a common experience. For example, if you and I both broke our legs as children, we could probably relate better to the pain of a broken limb than we could with someone who has never broken a bone.

I know what it feels like to be discriminated against, be called racist names, etc. That's one reason why I would never stand for that type of behavior towards another group (there are other reasons as well).

Fair enough. That's a reasonable explanation.

[Honeykiss1974]

In your Microsoft Office program, there is a very similiar sambo-ish image used as well (microft agent character).

I find it when I look under this path C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11

It may or may not work for you if you go to check it out. I'm using MS 2000.

[Shortfuse]

Originally posted by ambición6
yes my mom is going to buy them. and i am going to sell them (and maybe someone is going to buy them) and so what? all this PC crap is annoying

and before i get lectured on how its racist and ignorant blah blah blah, i say whats good for the goose, is good for the gander. alot of people in this country still consider many Mexicans as "wetbacks" or "illegals" or "go back to your own damn country" but you don't see me getting all dramatic about it. you just shrug your shoulders and move on.

shyt it's hard enough being a woman, and working in a corporate environment without having to be looked down on by other minorities (we are in the same boat -but I still get the 'she's just here because she's hispanic' bs)

i can understand why this might be drama if the US issued these stamps, but Mexico doesn't have the same history with black racism as the US does. god, my mom's nickname is "La More" which is short for Morena, which is "darker one". but its a term of endearment. that's the culture and it's not that big of a deal (to me or my family).

christ, its not like they pulled a proposition 187 like the US did. they're just stamps.

and before i get lectured on how its racist and ignorant blah blah blah, i say whats good for the goose, is good for the gander. alot of people in this country still consider many Mexicans as "wetbacks" or "illegals" or "go back to your own damn country" but you don't see me getting all dramatic about it. you just shrug your shoulders and move on.

But I don't see any REDNECK or goofy white guys flying Confederate flags stamps. I guess blacks in this country were the only ones who wronged Mexicans.

yes my mom is going to buy them. and i am going to sell them (and maybe someone is going to buy them) and so what? all this PC crap is annoying

Ummmm, it's not PC. This is outright offensive.

[Taualumna]

There's a sitcom from Hong Kong on the Chinese cable channel up here where one of the main/ensemble characters is called Fay Jai ("Fat Boy") by just about everyone. Unless you're referring to Homer Simpson, it'll never fly in North America. Weight/physical appearance is a touchy issue in Hong Kong too (women strive to be about the size of Mary Kate Olsen, men want to be very metro). What works in one country doesn't necessarily work in another

[TheEpitome1920]

Originally posted by Taualumna
There's a sitcom from Hong Kong on the Chinese cable channel up here where one of the main/ensemble characters is called Fay Jai ("Fat Boy") by just about everyone. Unless you're referring to Homer Simpson, it'll never fly in North America. Weight/physical appearance is a touchy issue in Hong Kong too (women strive to be about the size of Mary Kate Olsen, men want to be very metro). What works in one country doesn't necessarily work in another

Good point. But at the same time racist images shouldn't "work" in any country.

[ambición6]

Originally posted by jubilance1922

If this was a situation where Latino stereotypes were used, would you feel the same way?

they have been used....yo quiero taco-bell dog, speedy gonzales, but I as a Mexican dont feel offended. I LOVE Speedy Gonzales!!!! And so do alot of other Mexicans. And it bites that the cartoon network stopped running Speedy cartoons because they thought Mexicans might find it offensive. Maybe they should have thought to ask us first. And the Taco-Bell dog, well that dog is adorable!

[jubilance1922]

Originally posted by ambición6
they have been used....yo quiero taco-bell dog, speedy gonzales, but I as a Mexican dont feel offended. I LOVE Speedy Gonzales!!!! And so do alot of other Mexicans. And it bites that the cartoon network stopped running Speedy cartoons because they thought Mexicans might find it offensive. Maybe they should have thought to ask us first. And the Taco-Bell dog, well that dog is adorable!

Its your right to not be offended by those things. But my argument here is that many people that I've spoken to have found these stamps offensive. And you basically blew it off like we're being too sensitive. People have a right to not want to see negative stereotypes perpetuated, and they also have a right to have their opinions and concerned taken seriously, instead of simply being dismissed as "overly sensitive minorities."

[BetteDavisEyes]

I too am a Latina woman whose family hailed from Mexico & I am thoroughly disgusted by ambicion6's response. You're merely perpetuating the cycle of racism in this country. When was the last time you went to Mexico & really took a long look at what life is like there?
It is also saddening to see that you would seek to cash in on a really horrendous situation. I would never think to ask my relatives there to send me some of the stamps just so I could make money off them. It's awful and can't believe you would support this.

*steps off soapbox now*

[starang21]

Originally posted by ambición6
they have been used....yo quiero taco-bell dog, speedy gonzales, but I as a Mexican dont feel offended. I LOVE Speedy Gonzales!!!! And so do alot of other Mexicans. And it bites that the cartoon network stopped running Speedy cartoons because they thought Mexicans might find it offensive. Maybe they should have thought to ask us first. And the Taco-Bell dog, well that dog is adorable!

then don't feel offended. you don't have the right nor capacity to tell a certain group of people what they should be offended by.