Michelle Obama attacked for 'Not loving America'? What about McCain?

DaemonSeid · #1 06-20-2008, 12:41 PM

Republicans have hammered Michelle Obama for her remarks in February that she was proud of America "for the first time in my adult life." Tonight, however, Dan Abrams showed footage he uncovered of a Fox News interview with John McCain on March 13, 2008, in which McCain said, "I didn't really love America until I was deprived of her company."

Abrams thinks McCain's comments could undermine the "right wing's steady attacks against Michelle Obama."

click link to see video

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_108191.html

DSTCHAOS · #2 06-20-2008, 12:58 PM

Both Michelle Obama and McCain were being honest and their comments make complete sense.

I hope folks get over it and get back to whatever the real issue are. I don't know what the real issues are anymore but I wish the election was over already.

srmom · #3 06-20-2008, 01:00 PM

Oh for God's sake, both sides are ridiculous!

I HATE POLITICS! (and politicians, and politicos) they all stink!

When are we going to start worrying about the real issues? Huh?

srmom · #4 06-20-2008, 01:00 PM

DST, we cross posted,

AMEM to your post!!

DSTCHAOS · #5 06-20-2008, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by srmom

DST, we cross posted,

AMEM to your post!!

You spoke the truth!

jon1856 · #6 06-20-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Republicans have hammered Michelle Obama for her remarks in February that she was proud of America "for the first time in my adult life." Tonight, however, Dan Abrams showed footage he uncovered of a Fox News interview with John McCain on March 13, 2008, in which McCain said, "I didn't really love America until I was deprived of her company."

Abrams thinks McCain's comments could undermine the "right wing's steady attacks against Michelle Obama."

click link to see video

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_108191.html

Rather interesting to see how the "right-wing" commentators tried to defend themselves.
On one hand context matters, on the other it does not.

And I agree with the above posters that both parties statements, taken as a whole and in context, were being honest and their comments make complete sense.

However, this is just the start of "silly season" and as one of the comments in link said, people will just believe what they want to and
pass it onto others who may think the same way.

RU OX Alum · #7 06-20-2008, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Both Michelle Obama and McCain were being honest and their comments make complete sense.

I hope folks get over it and get back to whatever the real issue are. I don't know what the real issues are anymore but I wish the election was over already.

I agree with you again! Oh wow.

Anyway, I think it is good that they both love their country, and I welcome Patriotism from all people, if it is genuine, no matter when in their life it came to them.

(and i think it is obvious that both candidates and their families are patriotic [in the true sense of the word] otherwise they wouldn't be bothered to go into politics [or stay with/around their loved one{s}] if they didn't)

Munchkin03 · #8 06-20-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Republicans have hammered Michelle Obama for her remarks in February that she was proud of America "for the first time in my adult life." Tonight, however, Dan Abrams showed footage he uncovered of a Fox News interview with John McCain on March 13, 2008, in which McCain said, "I didn't really love America until I was deprived of her company."

I totally agree with McCain's statement. It's not until you LEAVE America that you realize how awesome it is. Heck, I feel that way getting back to the States after a vacation, so after 5 years of being a POW in North Vietnam? Dude can say whatever he wants.

jon1856 · #9 06-20-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03

I totally agree with McCain's statement. It's not until you LEAVE America that you realize how awesome it is. Heck, I feel that way getting back to the States after a vacation, so after 5 years of being a POW in North Vietnam? Dude can say whatever he wants.

I agree with you to a point.
You just gave context to his statement.
Now, take it out and see how it "reads".
Which is what this thread is about-how Michelles' comments were taken out of context and used.
Even Mrs. Bush understands that.
Take the time, about 13 minutes, to watch the MSNBC show.

DSTCHAOS · #10 06-20-2008, 02:09 PM

In or out of context, the statements make complete sense and aren't offensive to me.

Munchkin03 · #11 06-20-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856

I agree with you to a point.
You just gave context to his statement.
Now, take it out and see how it "reads".
Which is what this thread is about-how Michelles' comments were taken out of context and used.
Even Mrs. Bush understands that.
Take the time, about 13 minutes, to watch the MSNBC show.

How did I give context? I simply stated how I related to his statement. But, like DSTCHAOS just noted, both statements make perfect sense in or out of context.

Sorry, won't be taking the 13 minutes to watch that--at least not during the work day.

DSTCHAOS · #12 06-20-2008, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03

How did I give context? I simply stated how I related to his statement. But, like DSTCHAOS just noted, both statements make perfect sense in or out of context.

Sorry, won't be taking the 13 minutes to watch that--at least not during the work day.

You "gave context" because you explained the context in which the comment was made/may be applied.

But we both agree that context doesn't matter to us with these two comments. The comments were detailed enough that they made complete sense before I even read the backstory and explanations. And if these people weren't involved in this (God awful) election, no one would care.

EE-BO · #13 06-20-2008, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Both Michelle Obama and McCain were being honest and their comments make complete sense.

I hope folks get over it and get back to whatever the real issue are. I don't know what the real issues are anymore but I wish the election was over already.

Wow- this is about the most perfect post I have ever seen on GC. I want to add more but I cannot think of a thing to say that is not already covered.

jon1856 · #14 06-20-2008, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

You "gave context" because you explained the context in which the comment was made/may be applied.

But we both agree that context doesn't matter to us with these two comments. The comments were detailed enough that they made complete sense before I even read the backstory and explanations. And if these people weren't involved in this (God awful) election, no one would care.

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Originally Posted by EE-BO

Wow- this is about the most perfect post I have ever seen on GC. I want to add more but I cannot think of a thing to say that is not already covered.

While I personally agree with the 3 or four posters involved in this mini-sub thread, there are others (including posters on GC and real world) who do not think that way.
Have you followed this thread:
http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?t=96692 ?

A gentleman in my gym said something tonight that hit matters on the head. (Too) Many people in the US now just get their news and information by way of sound bits.
And they form their POV's based off of those and nothing else.

And as that other thread shows, once that bit of rumor/gossip is out, there are people who will not either take the time to track it down or even believe evidence that show otherwise.

KSigkid · #15 06-21-2008, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jon1856

While I personally agree with the 3 or four posters involved in this mini-sub thread, there are others (including posters on GC and real world) who do not think that way.
Have you followed this thread:
http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?t=96692 ?

A gentleman in my gym said something tonight that hit matters on the head. (Too) Many people in the US now just get their news and information by way of sound bits.
And they form their POV's based off of those and nothing else.

And as that other thread shows, once that bit of rumor/gossip is out, there are people who will not either take the time to track it down or even believe evidence that show otherwise.

So you want to go after McCain's comment? Go for it. I understand being upset about the reaction to Michelle Obama's remark, so if you want to go after McCain, just do it. You're obviously upset that McCain's comment didn't get the kind of criticism that Michelle Obama received. Go ahead and criticize McCain, instead of talking around the issue.

Some people don't see the big deal in either statements, and don't want to hold either against the candidates. If you want to hold the recent statement against McCain, and make a point about the treatment of Michelle Obama, go ahead.