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			Very impressive Pledge Book!  I wish you every success!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Congratulations and good luck!  Your pledge manual is very thorough.. seems like you have a great foundation!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			From the Pledge Book: 
 
"WE DO NOT DISCRIMINATE BASED ON RACE, RELIGION, AGE, AND [sic] HANDICAP OR FOR ANY OTHER REASON" 
 
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"SISTERS WILL NOT PROMISE BIDS AT ANY TIME OR IN ANY WAY." 
 
That you have a bidding/selection process means that you discriminate for some reason.  Your pledge manual is innacurate (and there's that odd conjunctive in the middle of all of those disjunctives).   
 
Otherwise, it's a pretty darned Christian looking organization.  Not my cup of tea, but more power to you.  That your statement also says that you do not discriminate based on religion is also very interesting.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			40 days   
Aside from spelling/typo errors (and the things already pointed out), I have to echo everyone else and say the pledge manual is thorough!
 
Quick question:  If the lamp is the "hidden symbol," should it be made public?  Or maybe I'm just reading that whole section wrong.
 
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			i know that i seem to be on a single track when conversing with members of new sororities, but i would hope that theta alpha would rethink their pledge pin design.  
 
delta zeta sorority has the lamp as the badge for their initiated members. perhaps one of your other symbols could be chosen? a symbol that is not already affialiated with another sorority? how about the sun, noah's ark, an open book, a lamb, a fish-or some other christian symbols?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Reading through the pledge manual, this organization will be no competition to DZ.  They'll attract completely different types of members.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			While DZs have a lamp for a badge, many sororities and fraternities have lamps on their crests/shields/coat of arms etc or use one as a symbol of their organization.  I think that there might be a larger problem if they were using the lamp as their active pin, but I agree with ktsnake that there's not likely to be a lot of overlap.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			If one checks ariesrisings Great Greek Listing, there are many similarities to Badges and Coat of Arms. 
While each is different, that is because each Is Different in thoughts and ideas.
 
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				Originally posted by Drolefille  
While DZs have a lamp for a badge, many sororities and fraternities have lamps on their crests/shields/coat of arms etc or use one as a symbol of their organization.  I think that there might be a larger problem if they were using the lamp as their active pin, but I agree with ktsnake that there's not likely to be a lot of overlap. 
			
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 I immediately thought of Amy Grant's song, "Thy Word is a Lamp Unto My Feet..." when I saw it.  While others may use the lamp, if it's not a complete copy, I find it highly appropriate.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I definately have to echo the sentiment that your pledge manual is very through. Great job! 
 
I also love your open motto. I also love that the pledges are called cubs (I just think that is so cute!) 
 
question: what does Pi Chi Gamma stand for?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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Thanks for the comments though, the pledge manual is getting some tweeking for corrections. 
			
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Note that the meaning should be 'revealed at initiation', not 'reveled at initiation'. Unless initiation is one heck of a party.....  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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We didnt do alot of research 
			
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 This just stood out like a sore thumb to me.  If you're going to pull a group together, you need to put in the work.
 
I posted this in another thread, but it works here too:
 
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 If you're going to use something of an existing NPC - make it only that one (or maybe two) things.  And if it seems to you like WAY too much research to find out what's already "in use", then you're not ready to put in the work it takes to start a sorority. 
			
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			JOSH!!!  
 
I love how you host the manual at a UF account for an FSU org haha. 
 
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The lamp wasn't meant to step on any toes.  After it was selected when we were working with the girls it has a very deep Biblical signifigance that is revealed at initiation, thats why it is for the "Pledge Pin" to make the girls reflect back upon the lamp before Initiation and the lion is given to them at Initiation. 
 
We didnt do alot of research but as far as the lamp went when we looked at coat of arms it was on Phi Mu and Gamma Phi Beta too.   
 
It has a pretty signifigant meaning and thats why it was chosen. 
 
Thanks for the comments though, the pledge manual is getting some tweeking for corrections. 
			
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