Unrecognized chapters continue to use Fraternity Letters

shadokat · #1 12-06-2002, 03:51 PM

http://www.buvoice.com/news/338845.html?mkey=113175

thoughts?

Kevin · #2 12-06-2002, 04:14 PM

All I can say is it's a sad thing to see a chapter go dormant... But the members need to accept that. Sounds like these guys are suffering from some huge issues with denial.

I wish ACACIA HQ luck in their lawsuit against these guys. I really would be pretty upset if a chapter of Sigma Nu had their charter pulled for legitimate reasons (like debt) and still continued to operate under our name. It's not fair when a group like that actually represents another group that has no affiliation with it.

33girl · #3 12-06-2002, 04:39 PM

well, if they're unrecognized, Bloomsburg might want to take them off their server. that would be a good start.

http://planetx.bloomu.edu/~rspastor/akak.html

DeltAlum · #4 12-06-2002, 07:29 PM

I'm guessing that this situation is more common that we realize.

DeltAlum · #5 12-06-2002, 07:34 PM

Hmmm....

I just followed a link on the page 33girl posted listing their actives.

The first group is listed as, "Founding Fathers from Lamda Chi Alpha."

So, what we have here is a group of LXA's who became Acacia's somehow for some reason and then got their charter in the NEW group yanked?

How does that happen, and what kind of a group are we talking about here?

Blue Violet · #6 12-06-2002, 07:54 PM

...but anyway.
OK-I am not defending these guys getting their charter taken. But hear me out....

I don't know what "operating under the name" means. Are they actually rushing? Are they advertising their parties as Acacia parties? Are they doing Philanthropy stuff and making new t-shirts with letter etc. on it,

Or..... is it just a bunch of Acacia brothers/now alumni, (I am assuming they are still brothers-just b/c you lose the charter doesn't mean you are kicked out) who live together, what not, and are throwing parties. Because that is a catch twenty two thing. They probably have some "more than three brothers together-it's a frat function" rule (lie most orgs. now) , yet they are really just some guys who are still friends and still do stuff. And I guess if five guys throw a party and two are wearing jersey's and one's wearing a baseball cap with letters...to the casual observer, it would appear they are still "operating" asa fraternity when in fact...that is not their intention.

I couldn't get the link to work to their website so I don't about the LXA fonder thing.

Just my .02 on the flip side. Playing Devil's advocate , just a past time....
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sfasammy · #7 12-06-2002, 09:53 PM

There's a fraternity on my campus that lost their charter last spring. They're now operating "underground" and are not recognized by the University. The organization is now referred to by their old chapter letters rather than by their former fraternity letters.

On a similar note, there's also a Lambda Chi Alpha interest group. They are recognized by the University, but are not allowed to use those letters. The student organizations office registers this interest group as "Lambda Chi Organization."

GeekyPenguin · #8 12-06-2002, 09:58 PM

That website hasn't been updated since 1999, which is probably when they lost their charter.

texas*princess · #9 12-06-2002, 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
Hmmm....

I just followed a link on the page 33girl posted listing their actives.

The first group is listed as, "Founding Fathers from Lamda Chi Alpha."

So, what we have here is a group of LXA's who became Acacia's somehow for some reason and then got their charter in the NEW group yanked?

How does that happen, and what kind of a group are we talking about here?

From reading these boards, I have learned that NPC women cannot normally be initiated into another NPC sorority at a later time... is that also "illegal" in the NIC world?

Firehouse · #10 12-06-2002, 11:27 PM

At Florida State University in Tallahassee, the SAEs (charter revoked two years ago) operate a house on 'fraternity row' complete with lions out front. They are the 'Lions Club', but they advertise in the student newspaper as SAE. There is an unofficial Delta Chi interest group on campus. Zeta Beta Tau's national recognizes their chapter, but the chapter registered as an independent 'student organization' rahter than affiliating with IFC. The school has 21 IFC fraternities, plus traditional Black & multicultural fraternities, and an active involved Greek Affairs staff. No one seems to be overly concerned and the system is strong.

DeltAlum · #11 12-07-2002, 12:20 AM

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Originally posted by texas*princess

From reading these boards, I have learned that NPC women cannot normally be initiated into another NPC sorority at a later time... is that also "illegal" in the NIC world?

That was my point, although I guess I didn't spell it out! I don't know about all of the fraternities, but it's certainly verboten in ours.

I think this group may be totally out of control

Blue Violet · #12 12-07-2002, 09:56 AM

From reading these boards, I have learned that NPC women cannot normally be initiated into another NPC sorority at a later time... is that also "illegal" in the NIC world? [/B][/QUOTE]

Actually-the Boys of the NIC are a little more lenient. Their website says that a member can be iniated into another NIC frat. if the second NIC frat. has a letter saying that the first NIC frat. has relinquinshed their membership. SOOOO as far as the NIC goes-it's OK. But some of the individual groups have a rule in their own constituions that they won't accept former members of other frats. I do not know which are which, but I do know a few guys who have done this. The guys don't seem to care much at all. I think they get a charge out of someone wanting to come into their org and leave another. I've never heard of it happening when both groups are on the same campus. Usually it's a transfer student who didn't like his experience at his old school. That's how it's been here anyway.

texas*princess · #13 12-07-2002, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltAlum

That was my point, although I guess I didn't spell it out! I don't know about all of the fraternities, but it's certainly verboten in ours.

I think this group may be totally out of control

I think that is really cool that you have that "clause" in your organization.

Does this mean Delta Tau Delta members cannot be initated into another NIC fraternity, or you cannot initate members who were previously from another NIC fraternity, or both?

Sorry for the 500 questions! I'm just intruiged!

crystalline · #14 12-07-2002, 04:43 PM

I once knew a girl who was a member of a NPC sorority and two local sororities. It was always interesting to see her sporting all three badges. Maybe its just me, but I think I'd feel funny joining another sorority, local or whatever. It would just feel wrong.

Rudey · #15 12-07-2002, 05:14 PM

I've actually heard of this a lot, even within my own fraternity. It sucks when HQ wants to colonize at a school, that the chapter was disbanded ages ago for hazing, to find out that the chapter is there and using your letters or simply decided to alter it slightly by adding "organization" or another meaningless letter to the end.

-Rudey
--A bunch of losers who get absolutely nothing but a couple letters on their shirts.