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08-31-2010, 08:25 AM
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Glenn Beck: I Shouldn't Have Called Obama 'Racist'
Glenn Beck: I shouldn't have called Obama 'racist,' he's really just a liberation theology Marxist
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Glenn Beck is being really strange right now. I used to appreciate him but now he's acting loopy. I don't know what to think of his rally but then he kept saying "I have a rally coming up and it happens to be on the anniversary of MLK's speech...but I won't divulge exactly what this rally is about...." That was strange to me.
Then to accidentally call a President racist (those who did that to Bush were/are equally dumb) and then claim he misspoke and meant liberalism and Marxism? The very idea that appearing liberal and Marxist could be synonymous with hating white people is AMAZING. He spoke his mind the first time around. He really believes that and he isn't alone in that belief.
The same applies to those who believe conservatism, Republican, or anything contrary to Marxism is inherently racist or anti-racial and ethnic minority group.
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08-31-2010, 08:43 AM
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He's not being strange, he's playing the game perfectly. This part of the game is the martyrdom.
Showing he is fallible.
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08-31-2010, 08:43 AM
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Yeah, I think he's joined Tom Cruise and Mel Gibson on the nut pile. I'm a knee-jerk liberal, but I can still appreciate a conservative viewpoint if you can back up what you're saying. But WTF is he doing? And how frightened are you that people AGREE with him and eat up everything he's spouting. The only thing good he does is provide constant material for Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.
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08-31-2010, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by BluPhire
He's not being strange, he's playing the game perfectly. This part of the game is the martyrdom.
Showing he is fallible.
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I hear ya. At the same time, for someone to be a martyr in this regard, they have to BE someone worth listening to. Glenn Beck can be cool sometimes but it still boils down to "who the hell is Glenn Beck?!" LOL. He's a news and politics commentator at best. He essentially jumped from the Fox News diving board into the more mainstream media in a very random matter.
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And how frightened are you that people AGREE with him and eat up everything he's spouting.
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The fact that so many people supposedly showed up for the rally is interesting and wonderful for their cause. I assume the rally was to take back America and cry out for conservatism (mostly Republicans and mostly whites) on a day when MLK called for social justice, peace, and inalienable rights for all.
It's great that they were able to have this rally and I'm not bothered on the day that they chose. I'm interested by the symbolism of it all--and what's embedded in it--which provided the context for Beck to be able to call the President racist.
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08-31-2010, 09:09 AM
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My only issue with the whole deal was him trying to claim that his rally wasn't political. Of COURSE it was political...and that's fine-I don't really care, but call a spade a spade.
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08-31-2010, 09:26 AM
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My only issue with the whole deal was him trying to claim that his rally wasn't political. Of COURSE it was political...and that's fine-I don't really care, but call a spade a spade.
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I agree. That's also about privilege.
It requires privilege to be able to pretend as though your cause is an "American cause" that is void of political spin, and even religious, social class, and racial spins. Some people wouldn't attend if they didn't catch the hint that they're saving conservative, Republican, Christian, white America from urrrrrrybody else.
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08-31-2010, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil
I hear ya. At the same time, for someone to be a martyr in this regard, they have to BE someone worth listening to. Glenn Beck can be cool sometimes but it still boils down to "who the hell is Glenn Beck?!" LOL. He's a news and politics commentator at best. He essentially jumped from the Fox News diving board into the more mainstream media in a very random matter.
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He is someone worth listening to...to his followers.
I remember Beck when he was just a DJ, which is why I understand exactly what he is doing. We can look back at many propogandist(sp?) and ask were they really worth listening to? Yet Glenn shares many of their characteristic. He's the everyman that says what we think. He peppers in just enough fringe to be controversial, but a lot more mainstream to make himself appear as a victim if you attack his controversial positions. Now that he has become mainstream (thanks to Obama and the liberal media) he is throwing himself on his sword talking about his flaws. And his followers will eat it up. When the economy gets better Glenn will disappear, like all the others who have taken advantage of people for their own financial game.
And that's what it is, financial gain. He doesn't care about the people at his rallies.
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08-31-2010, 09:44 AM
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Interesting. Thanks. I didn't know he has "followers." LOL. I wish "followers" understood that liking someone's show and appreciating their talking points doesn't mean you should follow the white rabbit down the hole.
I like Bill O'Reilly and watch his show but that's as far as it goes because at the end of the day he's only a media personality who makes some good points.
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08-31-2010, 09:48 AM
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Interesting. Thanks. I didn't know he has "followers." LOL. I wish "followers" understood that liking someone's show and appreciating their talking points doesn't mean you should follow the white rabbit down the hole.
I like Bill O'Reilly and watch his show but that's as far as it goes because at the end of the day he's only a media personality who makes some good points.
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I agree with you on the O'Reilly thing. I listen and find myself agreeing with a lot of what he says, but I don't follow him. I believe everybody has a point if you get pass the rhetoric.
Unfortunately Beck is only rhetoric.
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08-31-2010, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BluPhire
He is someone worth listening to...to his followers.
I remember Beck when he was just a DJ, which is why I understand exactly what he is doing. We can look back at many propogandist(sp?) and ask were they really worth listening to? Yet Glenn shares many of their characteristic. He's the everyman that says what we think. He peppers in just enough fringe to be controversial, but a lot more mainstream to make himself appear as a victim if you attack his controversial positions. Now that he has become mainstream (thanks to Obama and the liberal media) he is throwing himself on his sword talking about his flaws. And his followers will eat it up. When the economy gets better Glenn will disappear, like all the others who have taken advantage of people for their own financial game.
And that's what it is, financial gain. He doesn't care about the people at his rallies.
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Beck is more about selling books than changing America. I don't think he will fade away anytime soon though, he will just move onto the next topic.
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09-01-2010, 08:38 AM
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So I kinna speak to StopBeck on Twitter. And...well, I've decided that my Beck-tolerance level is low. So really anything he says fails to translate to my logic circuits.
But from what I saw, his "Coming to Jesus" meeting had great weather...
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