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Old 11-19-2009, 11:39 PM
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DNA evidence can be fabricated

It's not bullet proof any more



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Unlike finicky fingerprints and frowned-upon fiber analysis, DNA evidence has been the most bulletproof evidence for forensic sciences in recent years. But staffers at a research firm in Israel have recently upended the presumed infallibility of this forensics golden child—by making it themselves.

Nucleix, a Tel-Aviv-based life sciences company, was able to create credible DNA evidence that could be used to finger the wrong person, proof that even genetic evidence can be manipulated (beyond planting a hair or used cigarette) just like other physical traces.

"You can just engineer a crime scene," Nucleix founder Dan Frumkin told The New York Times. "The current forensic procedure fails to distinguish between such samples of blood, saliva, and touched surfaces with artificial DNA, and corresponding samples with in vivo generated (natural) DNA," Frumkin and co-authors wrote in a recent Forensic Science International: Genetics study that announced the technological achievement.

But, don't worry, like a hacker taking down servers to sell cyber security services, Nucleix has a fix: a system that can detect the difference between natural and manufactured DNA. It looks for a lack of methylation; an addition of methyl groups to DNA occurs naturally in genetic code, but it isn't found in Nucleix's manipulated DNA.

To make the fake DNA, all the researchers needed was a small sample of the DNA they wanted to plant (such as that from hair or lingering in saliva left on a discarded coffee cup) and blood from a donor. Donor blood was centrifuged to separate DNA-containing white cells and DNA-free red cells. The researchers then expanded the filched DNA into a larger sample size via whole genome amplification and added it to the DNA-free red blood cells from the donor. Poof! Blood that matched the genetic profile of the person to be framed—not the donor—was created.

Nucleix was also able to replicate a deceptive double helix just by working off genetic profiles in a police database. Building a small collection of common genetic variations—425—for different genome points, they were able to drum up a fabricated sample.

"Any biology undergraduate could perform this," Frumkin told the Times.

**yes I saw this on SVU and had to see if this was real or not.**
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Old 11-20-2009, 12:13 AM
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I saw it on SVU, didn't think it was for real though. At least there is a way to catch it though.
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Old 11-20-2009, 12:15 AM
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but how long will it be before another lab finds a way around this?
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Old 11-20-2009, 12:19 AM
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Good point. All they need to do is find a way to insert the proper amount of methylation into the fake blood. I'm impressed that SVU was so accurate about their research for this.
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Old 11-20-2009, 12:21 AM
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who sez you can't learn anything on TV?

hehe..
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Old 11-20-2009, 12:25 AM
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What I want to know is why did they go through all the research to discover this capability.
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Old 11-20-2009, 11:11 AM
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What I want to know is why did they go through all the research to discover this capability.
I'm guessing it's like trying to hack or breach your own security system - to find the holes and the back doors?
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Old 11-20-2009, 02:04 PM
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- to find the holes and the back doors?
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Old 11-20-2009, 02:10 PM
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^^^I know, I know. The moment I hit "send", I knew some twisted mind would come forward. I actually thought it would be a "that's what she said", but Quagmire is just as (in)appropriate!
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Old 11-20-2009, 02:26 PM
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Sen = Mess.

To the corner please LOL
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Old 11-20-2009, 03:09 PM
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My first thought at "back door" was "Giggity giggity."
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