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			Hello! First off let me let everyone know I am an active sister of Alpha Delta Pi and this is not meant to bash or bring down the organization I am about to mention, but to bring light to some of their "practices" theyre using on our campus. I don't know if any other sorority is or has been experiencing this kind of situation but a new chapter of Beta Sigma Phi is forming and actively recruiting. This is not a problem, at all. We enjoy a healthy competition and are glad to have another organization joining our greek life. The problem IS...they are heavily attempting to recruit some of our ALPHAS and bring them to BSP through false information (i.e-saying they are a legit sorority) and using theyre much cheaper dues as a hook and sinker. (And for those who do not know the meaning of an Alpha, it's basically the first phase of membership in ADPi.) This has created much tension between the two groups and we are looking to resolve this. Any advice? Again, I am not bashing the organization as a whole, I admire their community service and willing to serve, I am just a little upset at this local chapter.  
  
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			I thought Beta Sigma Phi was a non collegiate sorority?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				10-17-2009, 04:28 AM
			
			
			
		  
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			^^^ So did I. 
 
And, although they're not NPC they're still "legit."  (I'm not condoning their actions though.)
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Hello! First off let me let everyone know I am an active sister of Alpha Delta Pi and this is not meant to bash or bring down the organization I am about to mention, but to bring light to some of their "practices" theyre using on our campus. I don't know if any other sorority is or has been experiencing this kind of situation but a new chapter of Beta Sigma Phi is forming and actively recruiting. This is not a problem, at all. We enjoy a healthy competition and are glad to have another organization joining our greek life. The problem IS...they are heavily attempting to recruit some of our ALPHAS and bring them to BSP through false information (i.e-saying they are a legit sorority) and using theyre much cheaper dues as a hook and sinker. (And for those who do not know the meaning of an Alpha, it's basically the first phase of membership in ADPi.) This has created much tension between the two groups and we are looking to resolve this. Any advice? Again, I am not bashing the organization as a whole, I admire their community service and willing to serve, I am just a little upset at this local chapter.  
  
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 Beta Sigma Phi is a real sorority.  Do you mean they are still in colony status?  (I think they call it venture something.)
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			When a new chapter of Beta Sigma Phi is formed, its called a friendly venture. Beta Sigma Phi is a non-NPC sorority.  If they have the time and money could they not be in both?   I guess besides time and money, I'm not sure of the reasoning for having to choose one or the other since BSP is not an NPC sorority. 
 
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			Aren't there still some BSP chapters that are part of college Panhellenics?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			If they join the college PC council, wouldn't NPC and the CPH rules apply to them? 
If so, then taking it up with the CPH & the Greek Adviser would be the proper course of action.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Beta Sigma Phi is an international sorority and is considered non-collegiate. You can be a member of both, though I dont know why you would want to or have time to do both while in college. I joined BSP after college when I realized my NPC local alumnae chapter here wasnt going to be a good fit for me with what I was seeking at the time. Many of our (BSP) members are members of NPC groups, but most BSP's are not members of NPC's, thus they dont understand how NPC's operate. 
 
Beta Sigma Phi is trying very hard to grow it's member base. One of the ways they are suggesting this is to recruit college aged women because they will hopefully provide longevity to the membership base which is getting top heavy age wise. This is why you will find BSP chapters on some college campuses, though they are few. While I agree that recruiting women from this age group is necessary to the strength and survival of Beta Sigma Phi, I as a member of both BSP and an NPC sorority, do not condone the method that this particular friendly venture (the name we have for forming chapters) is using. Going head to head with NPC sororities in this manner I think would be disasterous for BSP.  
 
Having said the above, they should be lumped in the classification group of "service sororities." They should not be treated as a local sorority because they are not. They should not join a college panhellenic because they are not NPC, will never join the NPC, and do not/will not recruit like the NPC.  
 
I will not comment further since I dont know the campus, campus climate, or the whole story of what is going on.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
			
			
			
				 
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
				
			
			
			
		 
	
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			mskes - Are you the only NPC chapter on campus? Are they heavily recruiting new members of the other NPCs? 
 
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			We are the only NPC sorority on campus, and what is bothering us is they are using our dues as a reason to leave ADPi and come join them, among other things. BSP is currently I believe in colony status, or friendly-venture. They are installing their chapter I believe this spring.  
Right now the only NPC group we have is Alpha Delta Pi, and then Kappa Sigma, and Lambda Chi is absorbing a local fraternity. BSP is the latest addition.  
We do not have a CPH since we don't really need one. 
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			even though beta sigma phi would not be a member of a college panhellenic, i think that a meeting between the greek life advisor, adpi and bsp asap is warranted. bsp needs to understand that it is not a good idea to poach new members of another sorority. and the sooner the better. that is just not the proper way to recruit. 
 
in the meantime, you may want to research beta sigma phi and either share the differences and similarities with your fellow alphas at your next meeting(with the new member directors blessing) or offer the info. to her and let her share that info.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				even though beta sigma phi would not be a member of a college panhellenic, i think that a meeting between the greek life advisor, adpi and bsp asap is warranted. bsp needs to understand that it is not a good idea to poach new members of another sorority. and the sooner the better. that is just not the proper way to recruit. 
 
in the meantime, you may want to research beta sigma phi and either share the differences and similarities with your fellow alphas at your next meeting(with the new member directors blessing) or offer the info. to her and let her share that info. 
			
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			I would think that an org like BSP would want to recruit women who might be  returning students- or grad students. I can picture BSP filling a need for non traditional students.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				I would think that an org like BSP would want to recruit women who might be  returning students- or grad students. I can picture BSP filling a need for non traditional students. 
			
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 That might be the idea, but depending on who is doing the recruiting at this particular friendly venture, perhaps it's getting lost in the translation.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				I would think that an org like BSP would want to recruit women who might be  returning students- or grad students. I can picture BSP filling a need for non traditional students. 
			
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 you would think so, but according to the op this is not who bsp on her campus is targeting.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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