Star Jones leaves The View

[kddani]

So I read somewhere that Brandy will be the temporary replacement for Star.

I used to like Brandy, but then she did that whole weird fake marriage thing and kinda fell off the face of the earth for awhile. I saw her briefly when she was a judge on America's Got Talent (the 1/4 of an episode that I watched)... she did remind me of Paula a lot. Not much of substance to say.

[lilbay77]

[QUOTE=f8nacn]What does it really matter if she lost weight by "Diet and exercise" and/or "medical intervention". Point is...she is healthier now. QUOTE]

Exactly.

If she had come out and said she had the surgery instead of "medical intervention" folks would have something negative to say about that....

[OtterXO]

[QUOTE=lilbay77]

Originally Posted by f8nacn

What does it really matter if she lost weight by "Diet and exercise" and/or "medical intervention". Point is...she is healthier now. QUOTE]

Exactly.

If she had come out and said she had the surgery instead of "medical intervention" folks would have something negative to say about that....

I disagree. Had she been straightforward about it we wouldn't be discussing that because then she would have told the whole truth. But as a comparison, Al Roker had the same surgery and I don't remember there being an issue regarding his weight loss. In the right situation I think most people agree that gastric bypass is a good option.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by f8nacn

What does it really matter if she lost weight by "Diet and exercise" and/or "medical intervention". Point is...she is healthier now. We may not be pleased with how she looks but as long as she is pleased, then we should leave her alone! What if someone bashed you for EVERYTHING that you did! Sometimes we forget that these "celebrities" are REAL people with REAL feelings/emotions! We are too JUDGMENTAL just because we don't "know them personally". We don't know their inner struggles..for goodness sake, they don't know yours. You chose the profession that you are in and she chose hers! Frankly its quite disheartening to continue to talk about her when you don't know what she's going through and/or went through with regards to her weight and/or her dismissal from ABC...Of course, as mentioned before, things are sliced and edited in a way that would make the other person look/sound good. Star will remain a classy and sophisticated woman, with or without television footage..

But you called someone "too lesbianistic." So if you're telling other people they should be tolerant of her choices, shouldn't you be tolerant of Rosie's choices?

Personally, both Star and Rosie annoy me, and I wouldn't watch The View unless someone put a gun to my head. I do think, though, as unfair as it might be, things like this happen all the time in the media and showbiz. We just don't always hear about them.

[Peaches-n-Cream]

So many celebrities have plastic surgery and very few advertise it. Why should Star Jones be any different?

Here is a link to a transcript of Star Jones' interview on Larry King for whoever is interested. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...29/lkl.01.html

[SOPi_Jawbreaker]

[QUOTE=OtterXO]

Originally Posted by lilbay77

I disagree. Had she been straightforward about it we wouldn't be discussing that because then she would have told the whole truth. But as a comparison, Al Roker had the same surgery and I don't remember there being an issue regarding his weight loss. In the right situation I think most people agree that gastric bypass is a good option.

I don't think it's merely the admitting or not admitting to having had surgery. I don't watch The Today Show or The View, so my theory is based on the things I've heard other people say about Al Roker or Star Jones. But my theory is that it's tied in to who they are. My impression is that Al Roker is more lovable/beloved than Star Jones. I think with Star Jones, the whole wedding thing turned alot of people off. And I think her talking endlessly about her husband also annoyed alot of people. I think Star Jones is one of those people that people either love or hate. Whereas I think with Al Roker, people are more likely to love him or feel ambivalent, and only a small percertage of people outright hate him. I think Star Jones would be getting flak whether she admitted to having gastric bypass or not. Once again, this is from not having ever watched either show. It's just the impression I've gotten from hearing what other people have had to say.

[OtterXO]

[QUOTE=SOPi_Jawbreaker]

Originally Posted by OtterXO

I don't think it's merely the admitting or not admitting to having had surgery. I don't watch The Today Show or The View, so my theory is based on the things I've heard other people say about Al Roker or Star Jones. But my theory is that it's tied in to who they are. My impression is that Al Roker is more lovable/beloved than Star Jones. I think with Star Jones, the whole wedding thing turned alot of people off. And I think her talking endlessly about her husband also annoyed alot of people. I think Star Jones is one of those people that people either love or hate. Whereas I think with Al Roker, people are more likely to love him or feel ambivalent, and only a small percertage of people outright hate him. I think Star Jones would be getting flak whether she admitted to having gastric bypass or not. Once again, this is from not having ever watched either show. It's just the impression I've gotten from hearing what other people have had to say.

I see your point and in some ways I agree with you...I was more addressing myself who, while I find Star slightly irritating, probably wouldn't be discussing her method of weight loss at all had it not been brought up as a reason for her contract not being renewed.

[valkyrie]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

But you called someone "too lesbianistic." So if you're telling other people they should be tolerant of her choices, shouldn't you be tolerant of Rosie's choices?

Personally, both Star and Rosie annoy me, and I wouldn't watch The View unless someone put a gun to my head. I do think, though, as unfair as it might be, things like this happen all the time in the media and showbiz. We just don't always hear about them.

Exactly. If you're famous, people are going to talk about you and will have something to say every time you do anything. That's just how it is, whether people think it's nice or appropriate or whatever.

Personally, I don't think being on a crappy show like The View makes someone "worthy" of all the publicity Star Jones gets -- apparently it does, though. Also, Star certainly called all kinds of attention to herself when she pimped out her wedding like she did -- so I'm not going to feel bad about it if someone who thrusts herself into the spotlight ends up having people talk crap about her on the internet.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by valkyrie

Exactly. If you're famous, people are going to talk about you and will have something to say every time you do anything. That's just how it is, whether people think it's nice or appropriate or whatever.

Personally, I don't think being on a crappy show like The View makes someone "worthy" of all the publicity Star Jones gets -- apparently it does, though. Also, Star certainly called all kinds of attention to herself when she pimped out her wedding like she did -- so I'm not going to feel bad about it if someone who thrusts herself into the spotlight ends up having people talk crap about her on the internet.

Troof.

Can I make a big deal about marrying a gay man so I can be famous, too?

[kddani]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Troof.

Can I make a big deal about marrying a gay man so I can be famous, too?

Well how are you going to get sponsors if you can't give them free advertising in return on your group talk show?

I'm sorry, but classy is not a word that I associate with Star Jones.

[Dionysus]

Ok, what *really* happened at her wedding?

I've never really watch the view, and I'm not that familiar w/ Star's background.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by valkyrie

Exactly. If you're famous, people are going to talk about you and will have something to say every time you do anything. That's just how it is, whether people think it's nice or appropriate or whatever.

Personally, I don't think being on a crappy show like The View makes someone "worthy" of all the publicity Star Jones gets -- apparently it does, though. Also, Star certainly called all kinds of attention to herself when she pimped out her wedding like she did -- so I'm not going to feel bad about it if someone who thrusts herself into the spotlight ends up having people talk crap about her on the internet.

Yes - I honestly don't realize why this is such a special case, and why people think she is more deserving of sympathy/empathy than anyone else. This happens ALL THE TIME in the media/television. Should we pity Campbell Brown because she was passed over for the NBC anchor's position?

This is life in the media and on television.

[whiteandblack]

Originally Posted by OtterXO

With all this talk about what Star said/didn't say I can't help but say that it seems to me that in the land of non-specifics the term "medical intervention" can be taken so many ways. Personally, the term "medical intervention" sounds to me like she was at the doctor for a checkup and the doctor said "Star, you're obese and you need to lose weight. Let's put you on an exercise and nutritional plan and I'll supervise you." However, she didn't say "medical intervention" and leave it at that for everyone to assume she had gastric bypass. She also said she was dieting and exercising which implies that she was on some sort of medical weight loss plan without surgery....and medical supervision is not uncommon for people trying to lose a large amount of weight without gastric bypass. I think that if she had said "surgical intervention" or something equally as specific that would probably have been a little more helpful and not caused all this hoopla.

I understand what you are saying (I don't want to beat a dead horse), but on the larry king show she said that it was obvious that "medical intervention" = surgery.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by whiteandblack

I understand what you are saying (I don't want to beat a dead horse), but on the larry king show she said that it was obvious that "medical intervention" = surgery.

Yes, but it was an afterthought. Everything had already happened. If she did have her contract renewed, would she be on Larry King, telling everyone she had surgery?? Probably not, and that's why people have a problem with her. Only now, when the publicity suits her, is when she chooses to come clean.

[kddani]

Originally Posted by whiteandblack

I understand what you are saying (I don't want to beat a dead horse), but on the larry king show she said that it was obvious that "medical intervention" = surgery.

Obvious to her, perhaps, to her viewers- not so much. From reading the transcript of the Larry King Show she didn't even really come out and say it even then. Star is certainly a very intelligent person, and certainly has the marks of a lawyer in choosing her words VERY careful. She let Larry King do the talking in parts and just interjected comments- the kinds of comments that later on, she could potentially go back and deny something or say that wasn't what she meant. I don't know if the word "surgery" has ever come out of her mouth. Star is a very crafty and intelligent person, and certainly knows how to answer questions without necessarily answering them.

I don't understand why she just couldn't say, yes, I had surgery, sorry if y'all were confused.

KING: You lived with it. She mentioned the skinny thing and part of the development, and Barbara told me this, that when they did the surveys of when you were losing favor with the audience was when you discussed your weight loss as if you had done it with portions and eating and that no one believed that.

And that the crew of "The View" kind of covered for you that they sort of knew there was some sort of surgery involved, couldn't understand why you wouldn't just say that rather than go into this thing which they didn't believe and apparently the audience didn't believe.

REYNOLDS: You know that's very interesting, Larry, because when you and I talked about this we actually talked about it for an hour last time I was here with you. You quoted from my book where I specifically say that because of my health I couldn't breathe. I couldn't walk. Talking was difficult. That I needed a full scale medical intervention and that my doctors had to step in and save my life. I've said it in writing. I've said it in person. I said it to you. You all brought it up on the screen. And so for anybody to suggest that I...

KING: You're saying you always said there was surgery?

REYNOLDS: I've always said that there was a medical -- I mean look at me for goodness sake. I've been...

KING: So where was the impression given that you did this on a diet?

REYNOLDS: I have no idea why anybody would suggest that that's the statement that I've made. I actually have always said it was a medical intervention always.

KING: That means surgery right?

REYNOLDS: What else could it mean?