Advice to rushers: re: legacies - Page 9

adpiucf · #1 02-13-2006, 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by 33girl
I don't think two girls could ever be equal personality wise. If they could, we would have a much easier time giving out bids in general.

There is always that extra "something" in a girl that makes you like A more than B - even if it's so small as to be infinitesimal. That to me is far more important than anything her mother has done.

Agreed. But I can see everyone's point-- where it not expressly on a paper legacy recommendation that one legacy is weighted higher than another due to her legacy sister's level of involvement, it seems that politics do play a role in selection. I guess that is true of any organization with membership requirements and selection (nepotism in the workplace, university alumni, sorority alumnae, country club membership, etc...)

AGDee · #2 02-13-2006, 07:23 PM

We had an International Vice President whose daughters both went through recruitment at an extremely competitive southern school while she was in office and it was stressful for everybody. She didn't want to pressure her daughters into becoming Alpha Gams and she didn't want the chapter to feel pressured since she was an International officer. I never asked for details of their recruitment, but I do know they both ended up Alpha Gams.

This is a tough one for me. The only day I can think of that would be more special than the birth of my children would be the day my daughter was initiated into Alpha Gamma Delta. It's a hope and dream of mine, although I wouldn't push it on her. I bleed red, buff and green and can't think of anything more special than having my own daughter be a member. At 12, she is on the right path to living the ideals of our Purpose because she is a straight A student, active in Girl Scouts, band, and yearbook club. She has a lot of friends and has always found a niche wherever she went, even though she's shy when she first meets people. She's a very down to earth girl and, if she doesn't change drastically over the next 6 years, would be a leader and an asset to any chapter. Of course, I'm her mother so I'm biased, but her teachers, Girl Scout leaders, etc. all rave about what a good kid she is, so I have some objective opinions about her too. I would have a hard time if I knew that a group of sisters dropped her from recruitment.

Right now though, she has goals of going to Harvard, so unless we colonize there, it won't be a possibility... Unless we do AI for her...lol.

Dee

KSUViolet06 · #3 02-13-2006, 09:21 PM

Someone said before that they don't feel like "legacies count anymore." I think they count alot. Tri Sigma's legacy policy is such that the girl is invited to the first round of invite only partes (which at most schools would be 3rd party). That is a significant advantage if you ask me. Most of us who've been through recruitment on either end, know how easy it is to be released from a chapter. Having that invitation, while it does not guarantee you a bd by any means, it gives you an opportunity to get to know the chapter that other PNM's might not get.

irishpipes · #4 02-14-2006, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by JocelynC
Tri Sigma's legacy policy is such that the girl is invited to the first round of invite only partes (which at most schools would be 3rd party).

Really? I would think that the first invite only party would be the second party. I thought it was pretty much open houses/icewaters first round and everything after that was invitation only.

KSUViolet06 · #5 02-14-2006, 01:42 PM

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Originally posted by irishpipes
Really? I would think that the first invite only party would be the second party. I thought it was pretty much open houses/icewaters first round and everything after that was invitation only.

Well that's just the case for my school then. Our first 2 rounds are open. The policy just basically states that she has to come back to the first round of parties that are invite-only. For some schools that is only the 2nd day.

alum · #6 01-04-2007, 12:47 AM

Since we seem to have a lot of legacies rushing, I thought I should bump this.

carnation · #7 07-14-2007, 10:36 PM

Bump again!

AnchorAlumna · #8 07-15-2007, 02:57 AM

We had a chapter that had somehow got into the mindset that they wanted NO legacies. You can imagine how everybody held their breath when the daughter of a former international officer went through recruitment. All ended happily, however, as daughter pledged and everyone breathed again.

AOII Angel · #9 02-14-2008, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna

We had a chapter that had somehow got into the mindset that they wanted NO legacies. You can imagine how everybody held their breath when the daughter of a former international officer went through recruitment. All ended happily, however, as daughter pledged and everyone breathed again.

Why in the world would they not want any legacies? I understand that they wouldn't want to be forced into taking one they don't like, but no legacies?!

jwright25 · #10 02-14-2008, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by aeda

i was actually curious? if my sister is pledging right now and is to be initiated in march, at the same moment i will be going through recruitment, would that make me a legacy?

That's very interesting, and I imagine that the policy would vary from sorority to sorority.... If I were advising the chapter, I would say that if the sister initiated before your Bid Day, you would be a legacy. But that still doesn't guarantee a bid in my organization - only an invitation to the first invitational round. So even if initiation is right before or on Bid Day, the chapter's obligations have already been exercised.

AOII Angel · #11 02-14-2008, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by aeda

i was actually curious? if my sister is pledging right now and is to be initiated in march, at the same moment i will be going through recruitment, would that make me a legacy?

Put on your application that your sister is a NM for that group and will be initiated on whatever date. The sisters of that chapter can decided whether or not you fit the criteria for their organization when it comes to legacy status. You shouldn't care, otherwise, whether or not they do consider you a legacy since it does NOT mean a free bid from the chapter.

KSUViolet06 · #12 02-14-2008, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by aeda

i was actually curious? if my sister is pledging right now and is to be initiated in march, at the same moment i will be going through recruitment, would that make me a legacy?

If your sister is initiated before recruitment, then yes, you would be. Be advised that being a legacy might grant you some courtesies, it does not guarantee a bid to her sorority.

amanda6035 · #13 02-15-2008, 06:01 PM

reading this thread makes me think that I'll advise my daughters to keep their mouth shut about being a legacy if she ends up going to an ultra-competitive school. Simply because of the "fair" factor - and not being dropped by other chapters "just because" she's a legacy.

Too bad panhellenic cant tell only the chapter that the PNM is a legacy to that she's a legacy. Then again, you run the risk of girls in that chapter blabbing to other chapters to "stay away from Susie Q, she's ours"

*rolls eyes*

ehope · #14 03-12-2008, 02:55 PM

As several posters have already stated, clearly each GLO handles legacies differently according to their bylaws and policy and procedure statements. My organization offers a form for the member to complete that essentially "introduces" the potential member to the chapter. I know that many chapters receive these forms as the potential member is arriving to school the first week for freshman year "just in case" the woman is thinking about recruitment!

I think the issue is perhaps more about common sense and courtesy. Chapters are not mind readers- if you have a legacy attending a college with your organization on campus, just let them know. It shows you took the time to recommend (or not

) your legacy and the chapter has the rec in their records ahead of time so they can extend the courtesy that is offered to them as legacies. But, as long as normal recruitment procedures are being followed, if a chapter drops a legacy according to their needs, and this women finds a home at another house, then who really is the loser?

Please also note that there have been situations where potential members say they are a legacy and they are not. There have also been members who think they they are a legacy because their sister's husband's aunt was a soririty member. So i think there is room for improvement on all sides!

phimu88 · #15 03-31-2008, 03:05 PM

my daughter is going thru rush this fall and I have recs lined up for her so far at Phi Mu, KD, Tri Delta... she is a double legacy Phi Mu and I would be upset if Phi Mu cut her. I would not be upset if she chose another sorority though. I guess that is a double standard? Oh well I just hope she finds the one she really loves if she decides to join one at all. It is completely up to her. She will be attending a recruitment reception in a couple of weeks. Maybe she will learn something about each of the sororities then.