Is a "Pimps and Ho's Party" disrepectful???

[TRSimon]

Originally posted by phikappapsiman
I have to ask this...

I know that some fraternities have a "Pimps and Ho's" party. Some brothers want to bring it up to my chapter to have one, but I think that is it disrespectful, and kinda racist. Am I overreacting??? I mean, it's just for fun, but it just seems as if that is playing on bad sterotypes. What do others think??? Have we gotten so P.C. on campus that things like the KA's "Old South" party and the ever popular "Screw your Roommate" party are wrong? What do you think?

I, like a few other folks on this thread, would never see my sorority sponsoring such an event (nor would I attend one in my college days). It seems way too irresponsible to the community that we service.

[kappasigma1869]

Don't be affriad to do something because it isnt PC. Thats crap

[kddani]

Originally posted by kappasigma1869
Don't be affriad to do something because it isnt PC. Thats crap

Don't be afraid to use spellcheck or correct punctuation, either

<---- Refraining from making a WV joke. It's SO difficult as a native Pittsburgher to hold back.

I don't even know if PC-ness is the issue here.

You know, I've gone out on the weekends in attire that would be perfect for a pimps and hoez party. I own crap that allows as much as possible to hang out.

Would I go to one? Of course I would. Still, I'd go as Sandy, not an AGD. It's just something that I wouldn't want to attach my letters to. My letters don't just belong to me -- and if someone else wants to throw one, be my guest...just as long as it's not AGD.

[kappasigma1869]

To The Pittsburgher: I am from western PA as well and yes I am a bad speller and typer

PS: Pitt sucks at basketball

[The Truth]

Originally posted by Honeykiss1974
"Pimp's and Ho's party"??
" White Trash Trailer Bash"??(how does one "dress up" as this?)

WTF, have folks lost all creativity when it comes to party themes???? I mean, they do sell books that cater specifically to party themes, backgrounds, etc.

I thought greeks (or maybe its just in BGLO culture) were considered role models and a "cut above"?

Do you think your founders would approve of party themes such as the ones above or is it keeping with the organizations core values and mission?

***shaking head*****

I concur.

[ARADPi]

Originally posted by OTW

I'd go as Sandy, not an AGD. It's just something that I wouldn't want to attach my letters to. My letters don't just belong to me -- and if someone else wants to throw one, be my guest...just as long as it's not AGD.

You have to keep in mind that whether its being "that girl" at a party or being elected Student Government president, EVERYTHING that you do reflects back on your letters; whether you are wearing them or not. Even though you don't party in your breasted letter shirt, people still know who you are and which GLO you represent. They associate every action that you take with your letters.

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There was a Pimps 'n Hoes party, a CEOs and Office Hoes, a Golf Pros and Tennis Hoes, and a Dirty Doctors and Naughty Nurses party at my school this year.

I went to all four and had a great time. So did my sisters, and friends from other sororities and my room mate and other GDI's all of whom attended without being offended. I don't think that these parties disrespectful to anyone.

In my opinion, only when people are condemned for trying liven up their social lives and spice up their parties with a little creativity does attendance of one of these parties become a blackmark on a GLO's letters.

[Drunkie679]

We had worst mixers then Pimp and Ho, i think people are getting way to caution on what they do. I feel we are all students having fun. I mean they do have limits, but "Gangsta Bro and Hoodrat Hoes" was one of our funniest mixers

[msn4med1975]

Can I ask why anyone is attending a party where she'd be considered one of the "hoes" and is finding this funny? Last time I checked being a hoe wasn't a good thing. And for the wannbe pimps and ganstas among you, maybe because you aren't apart of the culture most associated with these archetypes then it doesn't seem like a big deal to you. But you are glorifying a HORRIBLE segment in society that does an injustice to itself and the women involved. Then again I'm not disrespecting my Founders by engaging in such behavior so knock yourself out.

[Honeykiss1974]

Originally posted by Drunkie679
. I mean they do have limits, but "Gangsta Bro and Hoodrat Hoes" was one of our funniest mixers

"Gansta Bros and Hoodrat Hos"


This thread is a prime example of the importance of art and music programs in our public schools because apparently creativity skills are no longer being developed.

And that's keeping it easy to swallow. I won't even touch the other implications

[Drunkie679]

I don't feel that this represents my culture. It is only negative if you feel it is negative. We come up with these theme, not to disrespect people, but we do it because they are funny themes that people can dress up for. People don't want to be pimps or be hoes, they dress up like them because it is like halloween. You dress up like something your not and have a good time

[adpiucf]

The people who want to attend these parties will go all out with costumes and have fun. Those who object won't attend. If the majority aren't attending, that's a sure sign your social chair is way off-course with her event ideas from the chapter's wants.

Also, if your social advisers signed the forms and approved this thing, it's a go.

As an alum, I think it isn't representing the Greek System in the best light, and there are other creative dress-up themes that are just as fun. However, I'm not gonna lie that the collegian that I was had a blast at these parties, whether they were approved socials under an assumed name or a party at someone's house off-campus.

A lot of current college student love the theme-- you get to dress all wild and racy-- what college student doesn't experiment with that at some point? I think that's an unconscious effect of dress-up mixer/socials.

So to summarize-- I get why college students love these parties, but as an older graduate I understand why it might be a good idea not to have them.

[Wolfman]

While those who put on these may not be "racists," a rather amorphous and meaningless term to me, there is kind of naivete and callousness exhibited in some of the posts in this thread.

Naivete in that images have meaning in historical/cultural contexts. To act as though this is not the case and then carry out a certain course of action that brings down sanctions upon yourself shows a lack of wisdom.Wisdom which should characterize typically more privileged young people who will be leaders in our increasingly diverse society.

Callousness in that true growth as a human being involves a growth in the capacity to empathize with Others--that you can see and experience reality from the perspectives of others outside of your in-group, racial,ethnic, gender, socioeconomic,etc. and make empathic choices. It not simply about what I can do but about what should I do. A totaly self-centered worldview is what characterizes children where their needs and desires are paramount.

[msn4med1975]

Originally posted by Drunkie679
I don't feel that this represents my culture. It is only negative if you feel it is negative. We come up with these theme, not to disrespect people, but we do it because they are funny themes that people can dress up for. People don't want to be pimps or be hoes, they dress up like them because it is like halloween. You dress up like something your not and have a good time

Once again I'll ask why dressing up like a hoe or a pimp is FUN for you? And I know it doesn't represent your culture. If it did someone would stop the foolishness.

[ARADPi]

Originally posted by msn4med1975
Once again I'll ask why dressing up like a hoe or a pimp is FUN for you?

Dressing up as a pimp or a hoe is fun for the same reason that dressing up like pumpkin or a ballerina or a super hero is fun. Its a COSTUME. Thats all. No social or historical implications intended. Just a COSTUME.