Casey Anthony Trial

[katydidKD]

Originally Posted by agzg

Yes, you did say that she would call people racist. Unless there's a way to condemn someone for being racist without calling them racist that I've yet to hear about. Is that something they teach you in willfully ignorant school?

Yes.

[BluPhire]

Originally Posted by agzg

Yes, you did say that she would call people racist. Unless there's a way to condemn someone for being racist without calling them racist that I've yet to hear about. Is that something they teach you in willfully ignorant school?

Originally Posted by katydidKD

Yes.

???

I think I need to say this before it gets crazier.

She is NOT my sockpuppet. I have no qualms trolling a thread with my actual handle.

[HannahXO]

Wow that escalated fast.


And Drollefille, I agree- drama isn't a better way to decide our investment in a case, it's just another factor is why we were so riveted.

[AZTheta]

/minor swerve...

This thread = multiple sources for a new signature quote. I do think I have selected a winner...

and, with all the karma talk being spouted off everywhere I turn, I offer this from last night's reading and meditation:

‎"All that we are is the result of what we have thought: it is founded on our thoughts. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, suffering follows him, as the wheel follows the hoof of the beast that draws the wagon." The Dhammapada verse 1 chapter 1 "Karma"

[DrPhil]

We are now part of the Internet/media storm over this case. I apologize for being that which I despise.

[Shellfish]

/swerve

I was astonished to see on World News Tonight a couple of nights ago scenes of people fighting to get seats in the courtroom. Then, in the paper today, this:

Among the trial spectators was 51-year-old Robin Wilkie, who said she has spent $3,000 on hotels and food since arriving June 10 from Lake Minnetonka, Minn. She tallied more than 100 hours standing in line to wait for tickets and got into the courtroom 15 times to see Anthony.
"True crime has become a unique genre of entertainment," Wilkie said. "Her stories are so extreme and fantastic, it's hard to believe they're true, but that's what engrosses people. This case has sex, lies and videotapes — just like on reality TV."

It's all going into my great unwritten treatise on fame as the new opiate of the masses.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by Shellfish

/swerve

I was astonished to see on World News Tonight a couple of nights ago scenes of people fighting to get seats in the courtroom. Then, in the paper today, this:

It's all going into my great unwritten treatise on fame as the new opiate of the masses.

She needs to purify herself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka. Or, maybe she just needs to get laid.

[DrPhil]

Barbara Walters asked Ashton if people feel so strongly about this case because Casey Anthony's pretty, Elizabeth added because she's white.

The attorney said "no," he thinks it's because this happened so close in time to Trenton Duckett. I disagree. Most people have either never heard of Duckett or aren't that familiar with Duckett. (http://helpfindtrenton.com/)

Then they discussed why people are so angered by this acquittal.

(He called Barbara Walters "sir" and they laughed, saying he's been dealing with this case and male judges for 3 years.)

[BluPhire]

Trenton Ducket???

Yeah never heard of him.

[DrPhil]

The View ends on an exciting note.

Joy Behar's still talking about the details of the case and how guilty Casey Anthony could be.

Whoopi Goldberg: She was acquitted! Acquitted! A jury of 12 people found her not guilty. The problem with trials like this is people won't take what the justice system, that many claim to believe in, seriously. People will keep going and going and going...then what's the point of a justice system (unless, of course, there will be an appeal)

Joy Behar: That's the court's decision but I'm talking about the court of public opinion...that I believe in.

Audience: Applause and scream.

Whoopi Yells: The court of public opinion is what gets people killed in false convictions and the death penalty. (Me: It's also what gets Casey Anthony's parents death threats and condones street justice when people think the justice system has failed.) Public opinion is like an (bleep--she said asshole but they bleeped it), everyone has one.

Amen, Whoopi.

Barbara Walter's Nightline will have the defense attorney this evening.

[KSig RC]

The greatest irony of all is that the zealots upset over the verdict (and pissed at jurors they don't know) are actually operating on the exact same axis as the jurors, just in a different direction (from a decision making standpoint).

The zealots cling to the notion of "justice" for Caylee - but the ideal of the court system is that the jurors must only concern themselves with justice for the defendant. The jurors concerned themselves not with the child, but with meting out justice for Casey Anthony - and we need to get the fuck over ourselves with the notion that justice is purely a positive thing, or purely a 'punishment' thing.

Justice is simply applying the law correctly - conflating justice and righteousness is a stark, silly and ultimately self-serving load of crap. It also wins trials, so <3 <3 <3. But yeah. Whether we like it or not, a court of law just cannot concern itself with "justice" for the plaintiff, the victim or those related - in fact, the notion is borderline silly to consider.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

The greatest irony of all is that the zealots upset over the verdict (and pissed at jurors they don't know) are actually operating on the exact same axis as the jurors, just in a different direction (from a decision making standpoint).

The zealots cling to the notion of "justice" for Caylee - but the ideal of the court system is that the jurors must only concern themselves with justice for the defendant. The jurors concerned themselves not with the child, but with meting out justice for Casey Anthony - and we need to get the fuck over ourselves with the notion that justice is purely a positive thing, or purely a 'punishment' thing.

Justice is simply applying the law correctly - conflating justice and righteousness is a stark, silly and ultimately self-serving load of crap. It also wins trials, so <3 <3 <3. But yeah. Whether we like it or not, a court of law just cannot concern itself with "justice" for the plaintiff, the victim or those related - in fact, the notion is borderline silly to consider.

Yes, that's also one of the reasons why false convictions and harsher sentences occur. People are so angry over what happened and want to see someone, anyone, convicted and punished. Justice for Caylee is not synonymous with justice for Casey.

[AnotherKD]

I just saw this-
"The family may never know what happened to Caylee Marie Anthony," George and Cindy Anthony's lawyer Mark Lippman, said in a statement. "They now have closure for this chapter of their life. They will now begin the long process of rebuilding their lives."

"Despite the baseless defense chosen by Casey Anthony, the family believes that the jury made a fair decision based on the evidence presented, the testimony presented, the scientific information presented, and the rules that they were given by the Honorable Judge Perry to guide them," the statement continued.

I assume the "baseless" defense that they're referring to is the allegation of sexual abuse by Casey's father? Or am I off on that?

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by AnotherKD

I assume the "baseless" defense that they're referring to is the allegation of sexual abuse by Casey's father? Or am I off on that?

Seems well-chosen to encompass both the sexual abuse, and the implications of the parents' role in a coverup of accidental death.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by AnotherKD

I just saw this-

I assume the "baseless" defense that they're referring to is the allegation of sexual abuse by Casey's father? Or am I off on that?

There's that, then there's the defense's allegation that Caylee drowned in her grandparents' swimming pool, and that they helped Casey cover it up.

A good chunk of the "reasonable doubt" in my mind came from her mother's weird testimony about the chloroform Google searches, as well as from "the month without seeing Caylee and believing that Zany the Nanny--who they had never met--was taking her on a tour of Florida theme parks.