Ole Miss Recruitment

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Aren't a lot of schools (who are able to do so and don't have a ton of chapters) going from 4 to 3? My school went from 4-4-3-2 to 4-3-2 after I graduated. We used to have Open House - Philanthropy-House Tours-Preference. Now recruitment begins with Philanthropy Day.

Boy, did I get my a$$ chewed for bringing this up on Sunday. The school has only 5 chapters and they still have 4 rounds.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

Boy, did I get my a$$ chewed for bringing this up on Sunday. The school has only 5 chapters and they still have 4 rounds.

Double posting because I didn't see your comment. What was the "a** chewing" reasoning?
My opinion: it's counterproductive to have that many rounds with that number of chapters. I guess schools have to do what's best for them, but really, cutting a round out hasn't affected retention or anything like that here. If anything, making it 3 rounds has helped it. And also, if you think about it, the round that we lost was that first day where the rounds were only 20 minutes each anyhow. It's not like we cut out, say, House Tours (45 minutes each) and we go straight from Philanthropy to Pref. It's a very beginning round.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Double posting because I didn't see your comment. What was the "a** chewing" reasoning?

Sounds like someone on Panhel in a decision making position had one too many people end up in her chapter that made them say "oy vey, I wish we'd had an extra round to get to know these girls."

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Double posting because I didn't see your comment. What was the "a** chewing" reasoning?
My opinion: it's counterproductive to have that many rounds with that number of chapters. I guess schools have to do what's best for them, but really, cutting a round out hasn't affected retention or anything like that here. If anything, making it 3 rounds has helped it. And also, if you think about it, the round that we lost was that first day where the rounds were only 20 minutes each anyhow. It's not like we cut out, say, House Tours (45 minutes each) and we go straight from Philanthropy to Pref. It's a very beginning round.

It was a long ramble from one particular advisor of another chapter
"We've always done it this way"
"It won't work any other way"
"BW isn't like any other college"
""If it ain't broke don't fix it"
"Too many girls drop out" (too many already drop out)
"It would never work"
"We would never get a chance to know the girls in just 3 rounds"
"I don't know how schools like OSU with 1000 girls going through do it" (um, OSU never had 1000 girls going through, it's deferred so you weed out a lot of the Grade Risks and know more of the girls, 80% of PNMs are from Ohio and someone in the house knows a majority of PNMS and WE ARE ORGANIZED)
(this was the point I really stopped listening to her ramble)

Basically, there was no reasoning to what she was saying and was appauled that I asked the question; she just didn't want to change. When she told me that the ONLY other college in the country that had a similar recruitment to BW was Akron ("oh, and maybe Ashland"), I nearly busted out laughing. You don't know how much I wanted to ask, so how many other colleges have you observed this? And, BW doesn't have House Tours because....no houses.

Personally, I think they need to go to deferred recruitment and do 3 rounds. BW is starting to get a larger number of Sophomores going through which tells you, they aren't ready to pledge when they begin college. If no chapters have reached total after formal, something is wrong with the system.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

Personally, I think they need to go to deferred recruitment and do 3 rounds. BW is starting to get a larger number of Sophomores going through which tells you, they aren't ready to pledge when they begin college. If no chapters have reached total after formal, something is wrong with the system.

If FR in fall includes first semester freshmen I can kind of understand their reluctance to lessen the amount of time spent with the women; however, you're probably right in that those issues would be eliminated with deferred.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

I'm pretty horrified that they plan recruitment with no regard for the Jewish holidays.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

I'm pretty horrified that they plan recruitment with no regard for the Jewish holidays.

If there aren't a lot of people there celebrating, unfortunately, it's not something that crosses people's minds.

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by 33girl

If there aren't a lot of people there celebrating, unfortunately, it's not something that crosses people's minds.

My cousin's big sis was from Mississippi. She had a sign on her door: "Shalom Y'all".

Unfortunately, not everyone is as sensitive to other's beliefs as I feel they should, which is sad. If I remember right, there was an incident a few years ago at Miami University where Greek Week hit smack in the middle of the Holidays, and it did not go over very well.

Today I told my boss, who is Jewish, that he needs to stop planning audits during the High Holidays. I am having a heck of a time scheduling people for meetings when they need to fly home early for each of two weeks. Half of our team is Jewish, from reformed to orthodox.

[OleMissGlitter]

Article about Recruitment Numbers in today's Daily Mississippian
http://www.thedmonline.com/article/s...t-numbers-rise

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

My cousin's big sis was from Mississippi. She had a sign on her door: "Shalom Y'all".

Unfortunately, not everyone is as sensitive to other's beliefs as I feel they should, which is sad. If I remember right, there was an incident a few years ago at Miami University where Greek Week hit smack in the middle of the Holidays, and it did not go over very well.

Today I told my boss, who is Jewish, that he needs to stop planning audits during the High Holidays. I am having a heck of a time scheduling people for meetings when they need to fly home early for each of two weeks. Half of our team is Jewish, from reformed to orthodox.

I have a Shalom Y'all t-shirt I got in Savannah (or rather, got from my mom's closet that she got when we were in Savannah).

In any case, a good way to keep Jewish women out of the Greek system is to hold rush over the high holidays. I'm glad that takes priority over interfering with a football game.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

I'm pretty horrified that they plan recruitment with no regard for the Jewish holidays.

I mean this with all due respect, but from the data that I was able to find regarding the percentage of Jewish students at Ole Miss, less than one-half of a percent of students are Jewish. Probably half or so of those are males. Given those numbers, it probably doesn't cross their mind to schedule sorority recruitment around the high holidays.

I can only extrapolate from growing up in Tennessee, but I didn't really meet any Jewish people until I was an adult and moved to Atlanta. (That's probably as shocking to some people on this board as it is to me when I hear the same thing about someone not having met anyone who is African American at some advanced age.) There simply weren't that many around. I know the closest synagogue was about 50 miles from my house when I was growing up. I'm pretty sure that Mississippi is pretty much in the same situation as far as the population goes.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

I mean this with all due respect, but from the data that I was able to find regarding the percentage of Jewish students at Ole Miss, less than one-half of a percent of students are Jewish. Probably half or so of those are males. Given those numbers, it probably doesn't cross their mind to schedule sorority recruitment around the high holidays.

Really? I would not expect the numbers to be that small at a major university. But I really have no idea how Ole Miss is ranked academically; maybe I was giving it too much credit.

[33girl]

There was just a Frontline on about a lawyer convicted of bribery in Mississippi. Someone said "Mississippi isn't a state, it's a club." I thought that was an efficient way to sum it up.

Also I think Ole Miss is smaller than Bama or LSU.

[old ATO]

Certainly feel free to correct me on procedure and how it must play out. From a dad perspective I paid attention to guys and my wife to the girls side but I've heard comments from members of a couple of sorority chapters that they don't intend to take 100+. Honestly, I can see it from a perspective of available space but it surprised me in that I don't really recall sororities choosing not to take quota. At these numbers? I can see it for some if it's allowed within the framework of how many came back to pref.

[80sAST]

Tomorrow is the big day good luck to all PNMs. Let the games begin!!