What city to avoid why?

[shinerbock]

Well, a lot of people in the south simply want bars. I'm proud to say there are no "clubs" in my college town.

[Victor Ziegler]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

No, Decatur is just a little too CYNTHIA MCKINNEY for me.

NOT ANYMORE!!!

[FirstAndFinest]

Originally Posted by Rudey

You're serious? I think Chicago is the only clean big city out there.

NY is great. In fact it's probably the best city filled with the best and brightest. But it's definitely not clean. The good news is that the high rents are forcing the poor people into NJ so the crowds in bars will undoubtedly become much cooler.

-Rudey

The cleanliness of any large city is so relative. NYC has done an excellent job of cleaning up and staying clean. (thank you Rudy - as in Guilliani)

The poor in NYC are still there and don't go to the clubs/bars you'd go to, rather the neighborhood bars/bodegas. They're less likely to move to NJ than the moderately affluent partly because the cost of commuting. (subway ride to lower Manhattan from Rockaway or Bronx is the same ~$1.50 now I think~as from Uptown, whereas the NJ to NY commute is many times that.)

But I think you were just trying to provoke some controversey, Rudey. And, you got me to bite! ;-)

[tunatartare]

Originally Posted by FirstAndFinest

(subway ride to lower Manhattan from Rockaway or Bronx is the same ~$1.50 now I think~as from Uptown, whereas the NJ to NY commute is many times that.)

it's $2 now, thank you MTA

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

it's $2 now, thank you MTA

Hi...I just put $35 in gas in my CHEVY AVEO (aka tiny tank) which will last me less then a week. Shut up.


(Less then $600)

[DeltAlum]

New York City is actually pretty clean, particularly given the problems it contends with.

It's old. The streets and sidewalks look old. That doesn't mean they're dirty in my mind. You see people out cleaning and hosing down the sidewalks every single morning.

Also, Manhattan is a small island and real estate is scarce and expensive. They don't use it up with alleys. That means that the trash bags are dropped at the curb until picked up.

That doesn't necessarily equate to dirty since the trash is bagged. It's just a fact of life.

A New Yorker probably wouldn't even give it a second thought.

[tunatartare]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Hi...I just put $35 in gas in my CHEVY AVEO (aka tiny tank) which will last me less then a week. Shut up.


(Less then $600)

You do realize that I think that's cheap, right?

[DeltAlum]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Well, a lot of people in the south simply want bars. I'm proud to say there are no "clubs" in my college town.

Yeah. I'd much rather go "bar hopping" than "clubbing" any day. Besides, I don't join a club when I want a drink.

[tunatartare]

I don't really know many people who go to clubs. For the most part, clubs in NYC tend to be 15-17 year olds with fake ids, and the 30-something men who want to sleep with them.

[Drolefille]

Why do you think that's cheap... you don't have a car.

If your commute is 2 dollars.... paint me confused.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

You do realize that I think that's cheap, right?

YOU. DON'T. DRIVE.

[tunatartare]

How much does gas cost/gallon by you? I can assure you that it costs a lot more in NYC and that you would spend a lot more money filling up the same exact car.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

How much does gas cost/gallon by you? I can assure you that it costs a lot more in NYC and that you would spend a lot more money filling up the same exact car.

If I lived in NYC, I wouldn't have a car, but since Charlotte's mass transit is only in the city proper (and sucky at that), I have to drive.

[tunatartare]

Fair enough. I only spend $76/month on commuting.

[shinerbock]

I'd like to congratulate the 4th District of Georgia for kicking the racist, anti-semetic, extremist, soon-to-be-ex congresswoman Cynthia McKinney to the curb.