A totally honest thread...from long long ago - Page 7

33girl · #91 05-26-2008, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna

I went to a job interview in 1974 where they actually asked (ONLY) young women applicants when they intended to have children.

Although that was pretty extreme, even back then!

Heck, I went to a job interview in 1992 where I was asked if I was married and if I had children, and when I said no to both was asked why not. The dinos may be dying, but they sure ain't all dead.

Denise_DPhiE · #92 05-28-2008, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by catiebug

How would you know a PNM was Jewish? Was it part of the rush application? Was the drop based on the PNM's last name (some last names are associated with Jewish families)? Was it based on that the PNM looked Semitic? I have to wonder.

From what I am told by our former council members, the women would ask pnm's "So what are you doing for the holidays?" if formal recruitment was in the fall. A Jewish girl would answer about the Jewish holidays coming up in September, just a few weeks away. Christians and others would have a why-the-heck-is-she-asking-me-about-Christmas-break-in-August look on her face!

honeychile · #93 05-28-2008, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Denise_DPhiE

From what I am told by our former council members, the women would ask pnm's "So what are you doing for the holidays?" if formal recruitment was in the fall. A Jewish girl would answer about the Jewish holidays coming up in September, just a few weeks away. Christians and others would have a why-the-heck-is-she-asking-me-about-Christmas-break-in-August look on her face!

In my own Recruitment thread, I mentioned how one woman talked about the Sedar Plate that her boyfriend gave her - little hints like that. The Roman Catholic sorority asked about the nuns at grade school. But that's when those things mattered.

Fawn Liebowitz · #94 05-28-2008, 02:41 PM

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I'm sorry, I have not looked back at this thread in almost 6 months and just noticed this question....actually yes, in 1970 it was indeed on the application - a line next to "Religion?"

The recruit/"rushee" information form from the local Panhellenic Association here still asks for "Religious Affiliation".

ellebud · #95 05-28-2008, 04:22 PM

....wow...

If I may ask, where are you located? What is the campus atmosphere like where you are?

StarGazer08 · #96 05-29-2008, 12:11 AM

Thanks ellebud for such a great read! While I know it exsisted it's difficult imagining a time in which religious affiliation mattered. Congrats on AEΦ !

LML,
StarGazer08

AlphaXi_Husky · #97 05-30-2008, 08:52 PM

Wow, what a wonderful retro thread. Thanks so much for sharing.

GeekyPenguin · #98 05-31-2008, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Fawn Liebowitz

The recruit/"rushee" information form from the local Panhellenic Association here still asks for "Religious Affiliation".

I wonder if part of that is for help with recs - like if Suzie PNM is not known by the women in the PA but she puts "Spaghetti Monster" for religious affiliation, the women can then call others they know who go to the Spaghetti Monster church and ask about her.

honeychile · #99 05-31-2008, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

I wonder if part of that is for help with recs - like if Suzie PNM is not known by the women in the PA but she puts "Spaghetti Monster" for religious affiliation, the women can then call others they know who go to the Spaghetti Monster church and ask about her.

Oh, I'm in troubles now! There is a local church which has Spaghetti Dinners what seems to be every other week. It's a local joke, because if you don't go early, it's so watered down that you need a bib just to eat it.

I just know I'm going to slip and call it the Spaghetti Monster church!

Benzgirl · #**100** 05-31-2008, 10:27 AM

(sorry for the hijack)

RedRover · #**101** 07-12-2008, 10:35 PM

I want to add this story about one of my friends. When he was in college and going through rush, the fraternity that he felt most comfortable with was historically Jewish. He was Christian, educated by the Sisters of Mercy and Jesuits.

After attending a couple of parties, many of the brothers were quite enthusiastic about him joining their fraternity. Quite late in the process. the brothers learned that my friend wasn't Jewish. While some of the brothers promoted him, he knew that the possibility of him joining this fraternity was fading fast.

When one of the brothers who was skeptical about him asked why should a Jewish fraternity offer a bid to a gentile, he said "Well, you guys might have need of a shabbos goy."

A lot of skeptics were won over when they realized that he knew a shabbos goy was, especially since a number of members had never heard the term (A shabbos goy, for those of you unfamilar with the term, is a Gentile employee of a Jewish household who job is to do those tasks that a observant Jew cannot do on the Sabbath; in some observant households, such tasks could be as mundane as turning on the lights.)

Needless to say, he got a bid and was a very active member. He married a Jewish woman, although neither ever converted to the other's religion. He and his wife will soon celebrate their silver wedding anniversary

Leslie Anne · #**102** 07-13-2008, 12:21 AM

^^^ Cute story, RedRover!

ellebud · #**103** 07-13-2008, 12:37 AM

RedRover:

I love your story! Incidentally my husband isn't Jewish, but our children are Jews. I mentioned that during my time in college women went to college to meet their husband the rationale for religious segregation was that we would all meet potential spouses that were from our background (the "comfort factor"). Who knew that I would meet an east coast Episcopalian from an Ivy League school?

breathesgelatin · #**104** 07-13-2008, 12:44 AM

I was hanging out with some people earlier this week that really made me reconsider just how dated this thread really is.

I was hanging with an alum of a UT sorority (won't say which one) who said that Jewish PNMs who don't wish to join the 2 traditionally Jewish sororities at Texas often wear cross necklaces during recruitment to ensure that the members of the other GLOs know they are looking to join there.

It especially makes me wonder because there was a thread started about this recently by a PNM... at Texas I believe.

This same woman also confirmed that the two Jewish sororities are (to her knowledge obviously) still 100% Jewish at UT. I knew that one of them was based on my relationships with members. I didn't realize the other was as well (assuming that what this woman said is accurate).

It really made me think.

exlurker · #**105** 07-13-2008, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by breathesgelatin

I was hanging out with some people earlier this week that really made me reconsider just how dated this thread really is.

I was hanging with an alum of a UT sorority (won't say which one) who said that Jewish PNMs who don't wish to join the 2 traditionally Jewish sororities at Texas often wear cross necklaces during recruitment to ensure that the members of the other GLOs know they are looking to join there.

It especially makes me wonder because there was a thread started about this recently by a PNM... at Texas I believe.

This same woman also confirmed that the two Jewish sororities are (to her knowledge obviously) still 100% Jewish at UT. I knew that one of them was based on my relationships with members. I didn't realize the other was as well (assuming that what this woman said is accurate).

It really made me think.

Wow. If accurate, just wow.