NPHC life at Howard

[Rudey]

Originally posted by babe'sbabe
I can't speak for every campus as I do not attend every school. But SOME Greek Affairs offices at SOME schools, including HBCU's Limit the number of new members an organization can take. for anything more specific, I am going to suggest contacting those schools directly as to ensure that you get the correct information.

What was your purpose for posting the Dept of Ed. Stats and referring to them as overachievers? I took it as scarcasim. And please do not refer to me as sugar. I take OFFENSE to that. I am going to refrain from PMing you as I don't think anything productive will come of it.

That's interesting. I didn't know the school limits the orgs. Is the limit applied evenly to everyone or do they ever set different limits for each org?

And my purpose was probably a little sarcasm. I don't deny that. That's my personality. We are who we are. I still believe regardless of the school, there are gems at each school. As for calling you sugar, I'll stop but I would have thought every girl would like to be called something sweet.

-Rudey

[Rudey]

Originally posted by The Truth
Competitive-They don't choose everybody. They choose who they want. There were 300+ at my rush. Only 48 were chosen.

Limits-None

I understand the definitions of competition and limits.

Although it does seem now that after others posted, schools do set limits.

-Rudey

[The Truth]

Who was giving you definitions? Even if I was, last time I checked those would not be the answers. You had two questions and I answered them.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by The Truth
Who was giving you definitions? Even if I was, last time I checked those would not be the answers. You had two questions and I answered them.

I'm sorry to inform you, but you didn't.

Babe'sbabe, however, did help me to understand better.

-Rudey

[The Truth]

It doesn't really matter, Rudey. I honestly don't think you care either way. Hopefully the individual who originally asked the questions is satisfied because Boo that is all that matters.

*gazing at the degree on my wall that I received in 3 years that is so nicely hanging on the wall of this Fortune 500 company*

I've been blessed.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by The Truth
Oh well that is the one I gave you.

You said no limits, but there can be school limits.

-Rudey
--I do appreciate your effort however.

[The Truth]

I was talking about my school not every school. Stay focused boo.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by The Truth
I was talking about my school not every school. Stay focused boo.

What school are you at?

-Rudey
--My boos usually hide in the dishwasher!

[babe'sbabe]

Originally posted by Rudey
I forgot about that movie. You are right. But the movie was a sad movie and I think people started saying a lot more (to be funny) following Seinfeld.

-Rudey

I guess, can't say that I watched a single episode of Seinfield

[babe'sbabe]

Originally posted by Rudey
. As for calling you sugar, I'll stop but I would have thought every girl would like to be called something sweet.

-Rudey

Im not a GIRL. Haven't been one of those for over 20 years now

[Phasad1913]

This is what CarolinaCutie originally said regarding "the best of the best":

My use of "competitive" then refers to the fact that there are a limited number of spots per semester. Although there is a baseline standard, I would assume at a school with such rich Greek history, the girls who are chosen for membership would truly be the "best of the best", making it more difficult to pledge at Howard than to pledge at another school. Is that an accurate assumption, or no?

She OBVIOUSLY meant the students at Howard who comprise the applicant pool of eligible candidates for membership in NPHC orgs. Not the school with relationship to other schools.

This is what YOU then asked:

Best of the best would mean Howard is the best?

CarolinaCutie THEN explained:

Best of the Howard women who are interested in that particular sorority.

You then went of on the tangent that you wanted to go off on to begin with DESPITE the FACT that CarolinaCutie promptly clarified what it was that she meant by "best of the best". So, NO ONE ever said that Howard was the Best of the Best of American schools even though anyone could argue that it is based on THEIR personal subjective interpretation of what constitutes the best.

I have a tremendous amount of admiration and respect for Howard and many other HBCU's. I am not an alumnus of one, but my older sister is and she had a totally different set of experiences than me and is incredibly smart and is very content with her career. So, what is YOUR basis for insinuating that Howard is NOT the best of the best, since you brought it up? If students are successful, prepared and doing fine post-graduation, who is to say which of their schools were better? if you are basing your rationale of test scores and pre-matriculation statistics, than your data-reality reasoning is quite faulty and YOU as a U of C alum ought to be ashamed of using that kind of deductive reasoning. Peopla come from all walks of life to each and every college and university in America and some sets of statistics will never be able to define which schools are better than others.

Once again, since you are an econ major, you invoke your tendancy to rely on stats, data, and documents to form your opinions. I, on the other hand, rely more on real life, person to person experiences, history and social relationships to define for me what is real and what is "theoretical".

Doesn't really matter, though, because in the end, as we have seen here, YOU went off on a tangent (and was proven wrong) because YOU have a certain belief that YOU wanted to express here based on a faulty sense of empirical support. That's too bad because too often we see that reliance just on those types of things leaves too much room for mistake and ignorance.


Off to enjoy my weekend. Go Howard!!

[CarolinaCutie]

Originally posted by Phasad1913
This is what CarolinaCutie originally said regarding "the best of the best":



She OBVIOUSLY meant the students at Howard who comprise the applicant pool of eligible candidates for membership in NPHC orgs. Not the school with relationship to other schools.

You then went of on the tangent that you wanted to go off on to begin with DESPITE the FACT that CarolinaCutie promptly clarified what it was that she meant by "best of the best". So, NO ONE ever said that Howard was the Best of the Best of American schools even though anyone could argue that it is based on THEIR personal subjective interpretation of what constitutes the best.

I have a tremendous amount of admiration and respect for Howard and many other HBCU's. I am not an alumnus of one, but my older sister is and she had a totally different set of experiences than me and is incredibly smart and is very content with her career. So, what is YOUR basis for insinuating that Howard is NOT the best of the best, since you brought it up? If students are successful, prepared and doing fine post-graduation, who is to say which of their schools were better? if you are basing your rationale of test scores and pre-matriculation statistics, than your data-reality reasoning is quite faulty and YOU as a U of C alum ought to be ashamed of using that kind of deductive reasoning. Peopla come from all walks of life to each and every college and university in America and some sets of statistics will never be able to define which schools are better than others.

Once again, since you are an econ major, you invoke your tendancy to rely on stats, data, and documents to form your opinions. I, on the other hand, rely more on real life, person to person experiences, history and social relationships to define for me what is real and what is "theoretical".

Doesn't really matter, though, because in the end, as we have seen here, YOU went off on a tangent (and was proven wrong) because YOU have a certain belief that YOU wanted to express here based on a faulty sense of empirical support. That's too bad because too often we see that reliance just on those types of things leaves too much room for mistake and ignorance.


Off to enjoy my weekend. Go Howard!!

Thank you. Rudey, I think you know quite well that I was not trying to make any sort of comparison between the academic quality of Howard vs. other schools. Stop being a pain.

[Rudey]

Actually Carolina referred to how I said Howard students were over-achievers. This is clearly in reference to the school and not an eligible pool of NPHC candidates. Of course there is some confusion and I'm open to clearing that up (though it has little relevance at this point).

As for statistics, you are free to post some. But don't try and call something faulty without proof otherwise.

By the way, since you weren't an Econ major, I would refrain from talking about econ as if it's just all based on stats. Most people in any subject do rely on data and documents from History to Econ to come up with conclusions and arguments (it's called evidence). In fact I believe once you finish law school, you will see lawyers in courts submit documents, facts, data, etc. as evidence quite frequently.

-Rudey
--PS I major in Public Policy also and did the whole science track.

Originally posted by Phasad1913
This is what CarolinaCutie originally said regarding "the best of the best":



She OBVIOUSLY meant the students at Howard who comprise the applicant pool of eligible candidates for membership in NPHC orgs. Not the school with relationship to other schools.

This is what YOU then asked:





CarolinaCutie THEN explained:



You then went of on the tangent that you wanted to go off on to begin with DESPITE the FACT that CarolinaCutie promptly clarified what it was that she meant by "best of the best". So, NO ONE ever said that Howard was the Best of the Best of American schools even though anyone could argue that it is based on THEIR personal subjective interpretation of what constitutes the best.

I have a tremendous amount of admiration and respect for Howard and many other HBCU's. I am not an alumnus of one, but my older sister is and she had a totally different set of experiences than me and is incredibly smart and is very content with her career. So, what is YOUR basis for insinuating that Howard is NOT the best of the best, since you brought it up? If students are successful, prepared and doing fine post-graduation, who is to say which of their schools were better? if you are basing your rationale of test scores and pre-matriculation statistics, than your data-reality reasoning is quite faulty and YOU as a U of C alum ought to be ashamed of using that kind of deductive reasoning. Peopla come from all walks of life to each and every college and university in America and some sets of statistics will never be able to define which schools are better than others.

Once again, since you are an econ major, you invoke your tendancy to rely on stats, data, and documents to form your opinions. I, on the other hand, rely more on real life, person to person experiences, history and social relationships to define for me what is real and what is "theoretical".

Doesn't really matter, though, because in the end, as we have seen here, YOU went off on a tangent (and was proven wrong) because YOU have a certain belief that YOU wanted to express here based on a faulty sense of empirical support. That's too bad because too often we see that reliance just on those types of things leaves too much room for mistake and ignorance.


Off to enjoy my weekend. Go Howard!!

[Rudey]

Originally posted by CarolinaCutie
Thank you. Rudey, I think you know quite well that I was not trying to make any sort of comparison between the academic quality of Howard vs. other schools. Stop being a pain.

Carolina, you did refer to me calling them over-achievers, did you not?

Now I know you would be dying to go Greek if you attended Howard and rush, rush, rush but it would be great if you could be just a tad more clear in your language and reasoning in the future.

-Rudey

[CarolinaCutie]

Originally posted by Rudey
Carolina, you did refer to me calling them over-achievers, did you not?

Now I know you would be dying to go Greek if you attended Howard and rush, rush, rush but it would be great if you could be just a tad more clear in your language and reasoning in the future.

-Rudey

You were the one who said they were over-achievers. It was definitely a poor choice on my part to assume that you were actually being serious and complimentary to the school. I didn't even look at the link until just now. Whether the students there are academic over-achievers or not has little bearing on the competitive nature of sorority rush there. Your statistics don't mention the average GPA there- so unless SAT scores start being a requirement to join a sorority, it's not really relevant.