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10-17-2018, 10:56 AM
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There is NO difference when rushing for looks versus rushing for GPA, sports ability, etc. Why? Because in all cases, a characteristics is leading. Why should a sense of humor be prioritized?? Why should religion cancel someone out? Why would GPA get someone a bid and not others? GPA without a look at coursework doesn't tell who the good student is. Why should girls with less intelligence or a wicked hard major (which might mean a lower GPA) mean they may not get picked??
THIS is the crux. It's picking and choosing. That in and of itself leaves people out no matter the category.
You can't have it both ways, ladies. Being OK with some positive attributes but not others.
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10-17-2018, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by beckymer92
There is NO difference when rushing for looks versus rushing for GPA, sports ability, etc. Why? Because in all cases, a characteristics is leading. Why should a sense of humor be prioritized?? Why should religion cancel someone out? Why would GPA get someone a bid and not others? GPA without a look at coursework doesn't tell who the good student is. Why should girls with less intelligence or a wicked hard major (which might mean a lower GPA) mean they may not get picked??
THIS is the crux. It's picking and choosing. That in and of itself leaves people out no matter the category.
You can't have it both ways, ladies. Being OK with some positive attributes but not others.
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She is not going to stop and she doesn't see the flaws in her thinking and I agree with Sciencewoman, just lock the thread now. "becky" has done more damage in her attempt at damage control and she's way out of line in terms of membership selection and discussing it openly. STOP.
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10-17-2018, 10:58 AM
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Please close this thread.
No one will provide evidence beyond the link that was originally shared, because that would be sharing private membership selection criteria, which is highly inappropriate for any sorority member to do.
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10-17-2018, 10:20 AM
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I'm going to throw in one comment. Becky has repeatedly said that rushing for 'looks' is no different than houses who rush for academics, sports, camp/church connections, etc.
There's a huge difference, HUGE. Rushing for the things I listed is when houses look for achievement, accomplishment, character, ability to collaborate and "play well" (sports team, leadership in groups, etc.) initiative, academics. Rushing for looks implies that the exterior is most important. Yes, it's been that one can be very attractive and have other great qualities, but when PNM's are ranked on looks first, that values style over substance. Not what any of our organization's intended when they founded our groups, not at all.
And for what it's worth, I know every Panhellenic sister here is proud to be a member of THEIR sorority. If you think any of us is jealous of Alpha Phi, then think again, that is incredibly misguided. I could not be prouder to be a Gamma Phi Beta just as I know other women here cherish their membership and sisterhood as well.
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10-17-2018, 10:46 AM
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I’ve said:
1. There is no evidence of Alpha Phi rushing for looks at the expense of other qualities.
2. In reality, there is no problem selecting for athleticism, religion, looks, social skills, GPA, sense of humor or any other quality. It happens in all chapters now.
4. If girls are being singled out because they are funny or attractive or smart, it’s because there is an understanding that many positive qualities exist in that individual.
5. PNMs and women are a sum of characteristics and no person is reduced to any one characteristic.
6. It’s vindictive to run negative interference with operations based on innuendo and rumor.
7. Alpha Phi is a very successful, historic, valuable sorority that contributes positively everywhere they are.
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10-17-2018, 10:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beckymer92
I’ve said:
1. There is no evidence of Alpha Phi rushing for looks at the expense of other qualities.
2. In reality, there is no problem selecting for athleticism, religion, looks, social skills, GPA, sense of humor or any other quality. It happens in all chapters now.
4. If girls are being singled out because they are funny or attractive or smart, it’s because there is an understanding that many positive qualities exist in that individual.
5. PNMs and women are a sum of characteristics and no person is reduced to any one characteristic.
6. It’s vindictive to run negative interference with operations based on innuendo and rumor.
7. Alpha Phi is a very successful, historic, valuable sorority that contributes positively everywhere they are.
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Just stop "becky" from APhi. Just STOP. Your spinning is beyond ridiculous.
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