Being Gay and Greek - Page 7

SATX*APhi · #91 07-08-2002, 02:56 AM

Yes, I agree!

JonoBN41 · #92 07-08-2002, 02:58 AM

I thank you for your input, but I really want to beat this homophobe's butt from here to kingdom come. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

This guy needs some talking to, and I'm talking to him.

What's wrong with that? That's what this forum is for.

Jono

TKEmz894 · #93 07-08-2002, 03:15 AM

In regards to LawGirl, don't get your panties in rut over having fun in discussing pressing issues in the greek system. The whole point of the internet is to be able to discuss issues in a enviroment free of political correctness that lawyers and politicians have thrust into any debate held in public. I can say whatever I want. The debate wasn't personal until they made it personal by attacking the merits of my views and fraternity. To all the girls (this includes you Jono) that I have offended, you deserve it. Is having another shopping buddy in a fraternity really worth all this arguing? Do you actually think you changed anyones mind? In the words of my father- "Bowel movements are only supposed to go one way."

P.S.- Anyone would like to start a thread about feminists, which by the way is real cute, baby.

TKEmz894 · #94 07-08-2002, 03:31 AM

So Jono, Are we talkin?what are we gonna talk about next? How to hang drapes, or maybe showtoons!!!!!!!!!!!!

KDambular · #95 07-08-2002, 03:38 AM

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Originally posted by UNFSigmaChi
Well sorry if you think im narrow minded. Yes i know gays and lesbians exist. From what i've read they have been around since the roman era...if not longer. Still doesn't mean its morally right. I believe in my ideals and morals and try not to leave them behind to join the beliefs of the crowd. Just because someone says, "Hey its 2002 and its ok to be gay now," doesn't mean that everyone who disagrees is suddenly narrow minded. Good grief, you can tolerate and live with people if you don't agree with their lifestyle.
Maybe your the narrow minded one?!

In AOT and Ta Kala Diokomen

OK, I was not going to reply until I saw the last thing you wrote. I know the history of our houses and how they tie together but that gives you ABSOUTELY NO RIGHT to use AOT and our motto, you have no idea what they mean, so how can you use them?! I would NEVER do that to your ritual but then again I have standards and morals that I follow. I'm going to be completely honest with everyone here. I have a very close friend who is openly gay, when I saw your first post it really hit home with me so I guess I was writing in his defense. I just wish people would be more open to everyone. It is nobody's place to judge anyone. EVER. If you go by Christian morals. So I am formally apologizing to you (UNFSigmaChi) for saying you're narrowinded. that was wrong of me to do. As for beng able to "tolerate" gays and lesbians why not try to be a little more accepting? That is what we're here for right?! I thought Greeks were supposed to be united, after all, if you come down to it, we're all shooting for the same goals here. We are all brother and sister every race, color, age...etc.

kddani, thank you.

sairose · #96 07-08-2002, 09:17 AM

At my school, I know of one fraternity that has two gay men; I've also heard of gays in other fraternities as well. Then again, I know of a few fraternities that are totally homophobic. With sororities, I have a female friend who transferred from another school where she was an Alpha Sigma Alpha and she is bi; she said she was not looked down upon or treated any differently.

My point is, it really just depends on the individual fraternity. Give it a shot, but be up front about being gay so there won't be any problems later.

DeltAlum · #97 07-08-2002, 11:06 AM

Jono,

Don't lower yourself to his level. It's not worth the brain damage.

TKEmz894,

Don't make a big mistake here. The internet is NOT free of the law. People are arrested for posting lots of stuff -- and it's so easy to track IP addresses, etc. You may only have an old truck now, but have you heard of garnishment? It's a great way to screw up your financial life for years to come.

Civility is a wonderful thing, as I said before, let's be adults and practice some.

ilovemyglo · #98 07-08-2002, 02:58 PM

TO TKEmz894-

I don't understand why you are angry.
I don't agree with what UNF Sigma Chi believes in, but if that is the way he feels I respect him for it. He can still believe that and I can still believe that sexuality does not apply to a sisterhood or brotherhood at all. He, I can respect.
You I cannot. Why would you begin using deragatory remarks to those people who were commenting back? There is no need for that. I am sure you can find other words to describe things than the ones you chose to, and I also personally believe you only use them to get shock and reaction. The English language is vast and you are not using it to its fullest capacity.
That being said- if your brother (by blood) or sister said they were gay would you hate them too? ANd why do you think so much of yourself to think that a gay man would want to have sex with you? Are you so sure they would chose a man who is so, hmm... eloquent with with words? Perhaps their standards set somewhere else.
I have gay friends who have been in TKE, Sig Ep, Phi Delta Theta, AGD, Phi Mu, AOPi, and Kappa Sig. Some have been officers at different levels. Most are actives currently.
Oh, by the way, i am in the "south" and women of every ethnicity are accepted into our sisterhood under the same circumstances that everyone else is.
And also about the redneck comment, my boyfriend is a self proclaimed redneck, most of his fraternity brothers are. They don't care who calls them it. They don't see it as a bad things. But what does that term have to do with the thread at all?

Tom Earp · #99 07-08-2002, 05:40 PM

Well YAll you are to funny beyond beleife!

Hell Boy you just a good ole Country Bumbkin! From teh Caju Ara!

Da, I just got of the Phone Last Night with one of your most disingust Brothers Yes E C! I also have the Pleasure of Knowing another of your Brothers ZNTEKE! Fine Gentlemen Both!

I have know many fine TEKEs over the years and respect everyone of them as Interfraternal Brothers!

Get over your little self impotence and rally be a man! O K Miss Scarlet?

TRA LA TRA LA Get down and Get Funky!

Thread is getting out of hand!

Aint goin to change anyones idea fo anything!

J MOM Love ya sweety are your rich yet? Call me when your are, I will think about a tryst!
Whart Say You you sexy Wench from Louisiann!?

Your Admirer in KC!

I don t make any money but I love my Job!

OOPS I must apologize for being a perfect ass whole to some of you!

justamom · #**100** 07-09-2002, 07:50 AM

Tom- OT-Looks like a trip to Seattle would be in order. Appearance of a LOT of hankey-pankey, trying to decide if it's worth the effort. Important papers seemed to have
"disappeared" ala Enron style... Maybe better luck for a great Seattle Mystery! The final outcome was a lot of good for a lot of people with a few free rides along the way. So in my heart, it may be best (to add this famous quote) "LET IT BE, LET IT BE...."

damasa · #**101** 07-09-2002, 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by KDatUTC
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T(no matter if they are gay, or even homophobic)

Now, I kind of have a problem when people say the word "homphobic."

I personally have nothing against gay people (I have two brothers that are gay and I love them just as much.)
But, why is it if someone doesn't agree with a homsexual lifestyle they are considered "homophobic?"

I guess I've always associated a phobia with a fear of something or someone. Some people may be afraid of homsexual people and the term could be used accordingly, but what if they just don't agree with the lifestyle?

Something to ponder I guess...

shultzz · #**102** 07-09-2002, 03:46 PM

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Originally posted by TKEmz894
I am a real TKE Mu Zeta 894

I heard the Mu Zeta chapter has had many homosexuals over the years.

damasa · #**103** 07-09-2002, 04:04 PM

I know you were trying to make a point. I'm just trying to figure out why a lot of people seem to use that term so often. I know people that don't agree with the lifestyle of someone that is gay, but they don't bash it, and they aren't afraid of it so I don't consider that homophobic.

Tom Earp · #**104** 07-09-2002, 06:07 PM

Damn, I cannot even spell it less alone pronounce it!

That is what I love about the People on Greek Chat, you are all so up on things and can spell good too!

Hi folks get on with the real world where WE as Greeks are taking hits from every swinging Moron out there!

We are the Minority whether we be Black, White or What the heck ever!

While I do not agree with everything said on here, I beleive we have the right to discuss the options!

Do I hear a Yea or a Nay?

Damn I love seeing my numbers climb! It is easy as I enjoy this site more than any thing!

Youse are all a little weird, hell OTW has the Best go she is in Paradise an I want to be with her!

AZDZetaSigma03 · #**105** 07-09-2002, 08:44 PM

Geez....there is not a single gay person on my campus. I know of one guy who came out after he graduated (he was a Sigma Chi even) but other than that....my campus is, while not Christian technically, very conservative and I would say homophobic. I can't imagine the ruckus that an openly gay person going through rush would cause. If it was a girl I would imagine that my house might be the only one to extend her a bid. Sometimes I wish I had gone somewhere with more open-minded people.