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01-11-2011, 07:56 AM
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1st, I think you mean Oklahoma City, not Kansas City. Thankfully KC hasn't been the site of one of these atrocities.
2nd, I saw a great interview with Bob Woodruff who had a remarkably similar injury and he is for all intents and purposes just fine. I'm sure there's a lot he deals with that he's not talking about, but he's sharp enough to continue to be a TV reporter. They also showed a picture of him with the piece of his skull still missing. GUHROSS. But hey, they eventually put it back and he looks fine.
We can't assume she's going to be perfectly fine, but there is reason for hope. I have so many friends who are politicos. One works for Congressman Cleaver in a similar roll as the staffer guy who died. I don't like the idea of having to worry about these friends doing the work of the people in a swing state where there is abundant negativity.
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01-11-2011, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DubaiSis
We can't assume she's going to be perfectly fine, but there is reason for hope. I have so many friends who are politicos. One works for Congressman Cleaver in a similar roll as the staffer guy who died. I don't like the idea of having to worry about these friends doing the work of the people in a swing state where there is abundant negativity.
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Again, I'm no neurosurgeon but after having many family experiences with nearly fatal instances I believe you never fully return to normal. Something about you has changed whether it be personality, physically, mentally, and its because an integral part of your body (be it your brain, heart, lungs) has been altered in one way or another. Heart cells do not regenerate and neuron cells regenerate but very few do. There is hope and its a miracle shes alive.
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01-11-2011, 12:36 PM
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Again, I'm no neurosurgeon but after having many family experiences with nearly fatal instances I believe you never fully return to normal. Something about you has changed whether it be personality, physically, mentally, and its because an integral part of your body (be it your brain, heart, lungs) has been altered in one way or another. Heart cells do not regenerate and neuron cells regenerate but very few do. There is hope and its a miracle shes alive.
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Have you read the recent studies and findings on neuroplasticity?
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01-11-2011, 12:46 PM
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Have you read the recent studies and findings on neuroplasticity?
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No, and Im not speaking from what I know, I'm speaking of what Ive been told by family doctors. I'm not claiming to know everything.
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01-11-2011, 11:18 AM
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Changing the gun laws over an isolated incident is dumb no matter how you slice it.
Let's say you reduce clip sizes to 15. What does a fella like this do? Carry two guns, problem solved.
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01-11-2011, 12:41 PM
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Changing the gun laws over an isolated incident is dumb no matter how you slice it.
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Don't let Jim Brady hear you say that.
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01-11-2011, 12:54 PM
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Don't let Jim Brady hear you say that.
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James Brady is just a political opportunist in a wheelchair.
Heck.. his own shooting only involved six bullets.
This was an isolated incident. 30 round clips are useful for a number of reasons. Especially at the gun range. If these clips are made illegal, do you think folks will no longer be able to obtain them?
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01-11-2011, 10:11 PM
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James Brady is just a political opportunist in a wheelchair.
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I can't believe you said that....wait...from talking to you thru this board...yes I can.
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01-11-2011, 10:27 PM
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I can't believe you said that....wait...from talking to you thru this board...yes I can.
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Thanks.
The guy's an ass.
He got shot and he's made lemonade out of lemons. Gotta hand it to him.
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01-11-2011, 11:12 PM
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I can't believe you said that....wait...from talking to you thru this board...yes I can.
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You know Mr. Brady personally? I haven't had the pleasure, fill me in.
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01-11-2011, 01:02 PM
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He was assigned the same lawyer who defended the OKC Bomber. I just don't know if I would feel right defending someone who was guilty, and for some reason they got away with it. None the less I dont think my conscience would allow me to feel right defending someone/ something I feel is horribly wrong.
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01-11-2011, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Chicago88
He was assigned the same lawyer who defended the OKC Bomber. I just don't know if I would feel right defending someone who was guilty, and for some reason they got away with it. None the less I dont think my conscience would allow me to feel right defending someone/ something I feel is horribly wrong.
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That is you and your conscience speaking; thankfully the United States Constitution and the protections it affords is still in effect today. I would not want to live in a country that doesn't provide those protections.
Has civics been dropped from high school curriculums? I know neuroanatomy isn't part of the curriculum but I thought that civics was, as a part of the responsibility to educate people to become citizens of the United States?
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01-11-2011, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AzTheta
That is you and your conscience speaking; thankfully the United States Constitution and the protections it affords is still in effect today. I would not want to live in a country that doesn't provide those protections.
Has civics been dropped from high school curriculums? I know neuroanatomy isn't part of the curriculum but I thought that civics was, as a part of the responsibility to educate people to become citizens of the United States?
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Think that depends on the district. I never took a civics class in HS.
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01-11-2011, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Chicago88
He was assigned the same lawyer who defended the OKC Bomber. I just don't know if I would feel right defending someone who was guilty, and for some reason they got away with it. None the less I dont think my conscience would allow me to feel right defending someone/ something I feel is horribly wrong.
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The story I read said he was assigned Ted Kaczynski's lawyer (the Una Bomber)
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01-11-2011, 03:10 PM
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The story I read said he was assigned Ted Kaczynski's lawyer (the Una Bomber)
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Judy Clark has represented the Unabomber, Tim McVeigh, the Olympic Bomber, and Susan Smith. The government keeps her pretty busy!
I was listening to a great interview with her this morning on NPR. She said that the main function of their role in cases like this--where they were either caught in the act, confesses, or the evidence is clearly indicative of their guilt--is to get life in prison and not the death penalty.
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