"Negro" in the historical context.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by naraht

You were the one who made it. If you don't think it represents Zen, read more on the concept.

So, now you want to escape the topic by discussing Zen. I am extremely familiar with Zen.

Again, if you agreed with my sarcastic statement then that's a problem and you should not be writing about APO at HBCUs.

On the other hand, if you were also being sarcastic, then cool. We both think it's neither enlightening nor progressive to hide race (and other power-oriented constructs) under more silly concepts and discussions.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

You like to debate the obvious. I'm talking about your assumptions of the intent.




Again, what are you talking about? What is my response on the issue that makes me a minority opinion?

**whispering** She called you a minority..you know what that's a code word for.....

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by epchick

Just so you know....everyone is at least a little racist.

Gah i'm a genius

No, everyone is a lil bit prejudiced.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Prettyface08

YES! LOL

Problem Solved

[Prettyface08]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Just because you're involved in an interracial relationship DOES NOT mean you're absolved of any racism. This probably does belong in the D&R Random thread, but just because you're dating, married to, or just hittin' up someone of another race doesn't mean you can't be racist towards other members of your partner's race, any other races, or even your own.

YES!! I absolutely agree with this and was about to type something similar.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

No, everyone is a lil bit prejudiced.

Yep because "racist" comes with majority power dynamics that not everyone has access to.** It is not synonymous with bigotry and prejudice.

**But, when access is granted to majority power dynamics for whatever reasons and for any length of time, it's the "same romp, different elderly man."

[Prettyface08]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Problem Solved

LMBO!!! I hate you for this...but I LOVE the topic LOL

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

No, everyone is a lil bit prejudiced.

Clearly, you haven't seen Avenue Q!

"Everyone's a little bit racist
Sometimes.
Doesn't mean we go
Around committing hate crimes.
Look around and you will find
No one's really color blind.
Maybe it's a fact
We all should face
Everyone makes judgments
Based on race.

Ethnic jokes might be uncouth,
But you laugh because
They're based on truth.
Don't take them as
Personal attacks."

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Prettyface08

LMBO!!! I hate you for this...but I LOVE the topic LOL

make sure you leave a response...hehhee

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL

Forgive me for being a product of my time but what the eff is that!? LOL! OMG! I'd never use that in a MILLION years. Thank GOD for adhesive, better yet, tampons. Pads are so high school...

Yes, you would, if that's all that was available or acceptable, as was the case when some of us started!

[APhiAnna]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Yep because "racist" comes with majority power dynamics that not everyone has access to.** It is not synonymous with bigotry and prejudice.

[Warning: hijack...not that this hasn't been hijacked already.]

I've heard this argument a lot, and to an extent I agree with it. Racism as defined in the dictionary is broad enough to include all hatred of race, but in academic contexts it differs from prejudice in that you have to hold power to be racist.

I agree that culturally, politically and commercially, whites are the majority power in this country and you could make the argument that by withholding opportunities from other races they are racist, and that the other races do not hold that majority power so they cannot be racist.

What is the nuance I am missing though...say a white person wants to join a group, organization or even just wants to belong in a more intangible aspect of society and is rejected purely because of their race? For example, what if after years of service a white person wanted to run for deacon of a historically black church, join a culturally Chinese dance group or pledge a Latino fraternity? Are these not institutions where a different race is the majority power? Obviously they would have to be qualified in all of these cases and we as whites should not expect an "automatic pass"...we have to be just as qualified. But if the congregation decided that they did not want a white deacon in a historically black church and that was the only theoretical flaw (ie, equal time spent in the church, positions held, etc), how would that not be a majority power of one race withholding from another...aka racism?

I am not saying I disagree, I just want to know what nuance I am missing that would differentiate one majority power from the other...this argument seems to be theorizing that power majority only matters at a macro-level and not a micro-level to be racist, and I am not sure I understand why.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by 33girl

You have to remember this was in the day when a lot of people still believed that tampons devirginized you. I guess you really don't want to hear about my grandma's day and WASHABLE, REUSABLE pads. There were a lot of older women who never used stick on pads or tampons...just wasn't what they were brought up with.

Just like older black people saying "Negro" instead. I can't believe the tangent merged into the original topic!

I currently use washable, reusable pads and a diva cup. They're really no worse than cloth diapers.

Originally Posted by APhiAnna

What is the nuance I am missing though...say a white person wants to join a group, organization or even just wants to belong in a more intangible aspect of society and is rejected purely because of their race? For example, what if after years of service a white person wanted to run for deacon of a historically black church, join a culturally Chinese dance group or pledge a Latino fraternity? Are these not institutions where a different race is the majority power? Obviously they would have to be qualified in all of these cases and we as whites should not expect an "automatic pass"...we have to be just as qualified. But if the congregation decided that they did not want a white deacon in a historically black church and that was the only theoretical flaw (ie, equal time spent in the church, positions held, etc), how would that not be a majority power of one race withholding from another...aka racism?

Society-at-large encompasses the church, the dance group and the fraternity. These groups still operate under the established system.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Clearly, you haven't seen Avenue Q!

Thank you. I was hoping someone would 'get it.'

[APhiAnna]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

Society-at-large encompasses the church, the dance group and the fraternity. These groups still operate under the established system.

So the white majority power therefore holds the power in these groups? Even if the leadership of this group is comprised of an entirely different group? This is the question I am confused about...macro vs. micro...are you saying that American minorities do not even have power in their own groups? Because I do not think I agree with that statement.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by APhiAnna

Racism as defined in the dictionary...

The dictionary is for surface level, layperson information and is akin to wikipedia knowledge/understandings of the social world.

Preciousjeni answered your question that has been answered many times on GC. Also, remember that white people aren't seeking membership and acceptance into nonwhite academic, professional, and social networks 99% of the time. The relatively rare occasion that whites do, they are either accepted or not accepted--but, it's with the understanding that the outcome of that rare occasion is a temporary, momentary inconvenience that is a drop in the bucket of white privilege and overall social advantage. This applies across social class because people are more aligned by race and ethnicity than they are social class.

Ever heard of the term "slumming?"