Obama/McCain and space exploration

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

But WHYYYYYYYY do you think that? You have made a couple blanket statements with nothing to back it up... thats not the same.

Hasn't she said enough already - do you really want her to say more? Dude, let it rest or else she'll go even wikier on you.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

But WHYYYYYYYY do you think that? You have made a couple blanket statements with nothing to back it up... thats not the same.

I've already told you why, PhiGam! What else more do you want me to say?! We should because I think there could be more there than we think. I would even like to see more exploration done here on Earth. Like I was saying earlier, I would like to see money spent on exploring what's on the deep end of our oceans. And we've barely discovered our rain forests. We need to because there's so much to see there too (which will soon be completely gone) So it's not just space, but it places here too. No, I can't back it up, but who can? If something is there, I want to know why it's there. There's so much life here we haven't discovered, and there are hundreds of thousands of galaxies out there, and to get there, we have to start in our own solar system 1st. Without NASA funding it won't happen.

Originally Posted by SydneyK

Hasn't she said enough already - do you really want her to say more? Dude, let it rest or else she'll go even wikier on you.

Ya know, these are things that interest me and you guys can continue to make fun of me if you want. So what if I didn't know what it was. I don't know a lot about computers or the computer terminology being used on here. Spam, blog or whatever. You're right, we should just let it go, because as usual since I'm not one of the "cool snarky greekchatters" my threads get trainwrecked. What I don't understand is if some of you guys aren't interested in this why post here? Seriously.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I've already told you why, PhiGam! What else more do you want me to say?! We should because I think there could be more there than we think. I would even like to see more exploration done here on Earth. Like I was saying earlier, I would like to see money spent on exploring what's on the deep end of our oceans. And we've barely discovered our rain forests. We need to because there's so much to see there too (which will soon be completely gone) So it's not just space, but it places here too. No, I can't back it up, but who can? If something is there, I want to know why it's there. There's so much life here we haven't discovered, and there are hundreds of thousands of galaxies out there, and to get there, we have to start in our own solar system 1st. Without NASA funding it won't happen.

If you want to explore a rainforest, come on up here to Washington and visit the Hoh Rain Forest - something thousands of people do every year.

Here's some information via your favorite new Web site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoh_Rain_Forest

Happy trails!

[JonoBN41]

I found this assessment on the Discover site, written by Phil Plait, who hosts the website Bad Astronomy.

His conclusion, in part, states: "So take whatever either man says with a few moles of salt. However, given McCain’s tack to the right and pandering to the religious zealots on so many issues, I don’t expect him to be a candidate who is on the side of science. Obama, on the other hand, has clearly stated his opposition to what has happened to science over the past eight years, and that gives me hope."

Here's the link, followed by 65 reader Comments. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/ba...e-exploration/

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

I can't wait to hear this...hehe

"...why don't you go back to the planet you came from?"

"Well if you people didn't come with your spaceships and stole us from our galaxy, we wouldn't HAVE this problem! Go back to YOUR planet!"

Let me add. When they 1st arrive on Mars, before the Martian reservations and ghettos are created they would fill the Martian jokers stomachs up with Turkey, green beans, mac and cheese, corn, chitlins, collard greens and fatback. Let's not forget about the legal forms. You know, the ones that ask about your race. They would read something like this:

Your ethnicity, please check one:

Earthling African Martian__
Earthling Asian Martian__
Earthling Native American Martian__
Earthling Hispanic Martian__
Native Martian__
Caucasian__
Other__ (meaning the mutant looking jokers with 7 fingers, or one eye, or 3 breasts and/or 2 azzholes).

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Ya know, these are things that interest me and you guys can continue to make fun of me if you want. So what if I didn't know what it was. I don't know a lot about computers or the computer terminology being used on here. Spam, blog or whatever. You're right, we should just let it go, because as usual since I'm not one of the "cool snarky greekchatters" my threads get trainwrecked. What I don't understand is if some of you guys aren't interested in this why post here? Seriously.

You take greekchat too seriously. Relax, it's just a message board.

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by JonoBN41

I found this assessment on the Discover site, written by Phil Plait, who hosts the website Bad Astronomy.

His conclusion, in part, states: "So take whatever either man says with a few moles of salt. However, given McCain’s tack to the right and pandering to the religious zealots on so many issues, I don’t expect him to be a candidate who is on the side of science. Obama, on the other hand, has clearly stated his opposition to what has happened to science over the past eight years, and that gives me hope."

Here's the link, followed by 65 reader Comments. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/ba...e-exploration/

McCain being religious (supposedly) makes him against evolutionary science, not space exploration. The writer here should have better logic and reasoning skills then that if he's a scientist. I personally believe in evolution and I can admit that the commentary in this article is sophomoric at best.

[LightBulb]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I would even like to see more exploration done here on Earth. Like I was saying earlier, I would like to see money spent on exploring what's on the deep end of our oceans.

You know, I've actually heard that we know more about space than we do about our own oceans, so you may be on to something here. Oceans: The Final Frontier.

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

If you want to explore a rainforest, come on up here to Washington and visit the Hoh Rain Forest - something thousands of people do every year. ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoh_Rain_Forest

Interesting, thanks for the heads up!

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

I personally believe in evolution

Me too. I believe God created everything, but I don't take the Bible literally. The Bible is here to teach us right from wrong. We didn't just appear, and we won't be here forever. I think something else will be living on Earth, or if we are here, we won't look the same way as we do now. Just like the article said we need more manned space missions. But yeah, PhiGam I agree with you.

Originally Posted by LightBulb

You know, I've actually heard that we know more about space than we do about our own oceans, so you may be on to something here. Oceans: The Final Frontier.

Interesting, thanks for the heads up!

I've heard that too. There's this movie I saw years ago, and I can't think of the name of it, but it's about this guy who goes to the very bottom of the ocean, and what he saw was amazing. I'll have to look it up, it was so good. Scientist have recently found a new species of shark at crushing depth levels. They showed it on the news last summer. Not the most pleasent looking shark, but that just goes to show that there is so much to see, and research. Have you ever heard of viper fish? I have a DVD on them. I wish there was I way I could post the whole documentary on here for you to see lol. Some fish down there don't have any eyes, because they don't need any. It's pitch black down there and without any sunlight, very cold. If you get a chance rent Mission to Mars. It's a really good movie. I liked it.

Yeah, I would love to see our oceans explored more though.

btw: I loved the youtube.

ETA: Giant squid live down there too. They have one on display at the Aquarium in Chicago.

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

If you want to explore a rainforest, come on up here to Washington and visit the Hoh Rain Forest - something thousands of people do every year.

Here's some information via your favorite new Web site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoh_Rain_Forest

Happy trails!

Thanks Peppy. The article you posted was really good. Some of the tarantulas in the rainforest get to be the size of dinner plates, and are deadly to humans, unlike the ones here. There are actually more species of spiders in the rainforest than anywhere else in the world. Who knows, but the cure for so many diseases could be right here in our very own rainforests. We'll never know if they continue to be destroyed though.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Thanks Peppy. The article you posted was really good. Some of the tarantulas in the rainforest get to be the size of dinner plates, and are deadly to humans, unlike the ones here. There are actually more species of spiders in the rainforest than anywhere else in the world. Who knows, but the cure for so many diseases could be right here in our very own rainforests. We'll never know if they continue to be destroyed though.

Not all rainforests are being destroyed. You're thinking of the ones in Brazil, I take it? The ones here in North America are for the most part in protected national parks/forests. My point was that people DO explore and do research in our rainforests; in my state people go camping and hiking in ours year-round. If you want to observe and research one, no one is stopping you. It's a ridiculous comparison to Mars and space is what I'm getting at.

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by LightBulb

You know, I've actually heard that we know more about space than we do about our own oceans, so you may be on to something here. Oceans: The Final Frontier.

Interesting, thanks for the heads up!

I've heard that but think about the fact that we don't even know where space ends (if its not infinite). I don't think there's a fraction small enough to relate how much of space we haven't explored.

[the rocketeer]

Human rights > space exploration, so even if I don't necessarily believe in Obama's views on NASA funding, I'm still voting for him

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

Not all rainforests are being destroyed. You're thinking of the ones in Brazil, I take it? The ones here in North America are for the most part in protected national parks/forests. My point was that people DO explore and do research in our rainforests; in my state people go camping and hiking in ours year-round. If you want to observe and research one, no one is stopping you. It's a ridiculous comparison to Mars and space is what I'm getting at.

Yeah, I was actually referring to the ones in South America. I was just using it as an example because we haven't explored the rainforests like we should have.

Originally Posted by PhiGam

I've heard that but think about the fact that we don't even know where space ends (if its not infinite). I don't think there's a fraction small enough to relate how much of space we haven't explored.

True. Space continues to grow, but we don't know if there is any other life out there, but we do know for a fact that there is life in parts of the oceans we don't yet have the technology to go.

Originally Posted by the rocketeer

I'm still voting for him

Me too.

[DaemonSeid]

How safe if the shuttle?


http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archi...3/1631680.aspx

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

How safe if the shuttle?


http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archi...3/1631680.aspx

That was a great article. I think it's safe, but like anything else made by people it can be made safer. That all comes with the proper engineering and inspections.