What city to avoid why?

[RU OX Alum]

Baltimore, Provedence, maybe for living. Maybe Santa Monica or Malibu. Richmond City is no where near Richmond County, btw. That is so strange to me.

I would like to visit Savanah (sp?) and Mobile. ATL was too, I don't know. I didn't really like Miami.

Youngstown, OH is much better than Miami.

[tunatartare]

To everyone who's said that NY is dirty: when was the last time that you've been here? It's definitely cleaned up a lot in the past couple of years. I'd say it's cleaner than some other cities.

[f8nacn]

Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

To everyone who's said that NY is dirty: when was the last time that you've been here? It's definitely cleaned up a lot in the past couple of years. I'd say it's cleaner than some other cities.

I would have to agree...

[mu_agd]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

Youngstown, OH is much better than Miami.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[PiKA2001]

First of all, no really even lives in Detroit, they live in suburbs of Detroit. That being said their are some very nice areas outside of the Detroit proper area.
Places I wouldn't want to live: Jersey, Ohio, actually the entire midwest and east coast i can do without. Also, the north north like wisconsin and montana (where the men are men and the women are too). The only places that I would live on the west coast would be Monteray CA, Portland OR, and maybe Seattle. I like Nashville and a lot of southern cities, but it can get way too hot for me.

[PiKA2001]

No, Michigan is included in the list. I wouldn't forget about the yoopers.

[shinerbock]

Regarding NYC being the politest city, it was of 36 cities, and NYC was the only American city. I don't really think that says much.

About it being dirty, note that I mentioned I know they've cleaned it up a lot. I havent been there since 2003. Any city of size is gonna be dirty (atlanta is) and I don't really like that. I prefer smaller cities, which tend to have cleaner downtown areas, at least in my opinion.

About NYC rudeness, when I was there, I had some people who were quite rude. However, much of it may have just been that people in NYC can be quite brash, without really having any contempt for you. I imagine people come off as rude much more than they actually intend to be.

[AlphaFrog]

I agree with those who said Charlotte is a great place to live. Although when I find out whose idea it was to tear up EVERY street in South End at the same time, that person won't wake up the next day.

I second whoever said not to live in a Spring Break destination. They aren't even that great on spring break, let alone the rest of the year.

[shinerbock]

Yeah, I won't even go to spring break destinations(PC,S padre, Dayona) for SPRING BREAK, much less to live there.

[ZTAngel]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Regarding NYC being the politest city, it was of 36 cities, and NYC was the only American city. I don't really think that says much.

About it being dirty, note that I mentioned I know they've cleaned it up a lot. I havent been there since 2003. Any city of size is gonna be dirty (atlanta is) and I don't really like that.

NYC is actually pretty clean for a big city. I've always been impressed every time I visit with how the sidewalks are rarely littered, there's not too much smog, etc.

Atlanta on the other hand. Bleh. The smog problem is unbelievable. During the winter, I can see Stone Mountain clearly from my office but during the summer...forget it. The visibility is poor and I'm over 30 floors up. Also, if you go to Stone Mountain and you look out at downtown Atlanta, the city is looks like it's enclosed in a yellow/gray cloud.

[shinerbock]

Yeah, it seems like its gotten a lot worse the past couple years. When I was younger I never noticed it.

[Kevin]

I really do love OKC. Maybe it's because of the part of it I live in, etc.

-- but that'd be the top of my list.

Other than that, I don't believe that being happy in a certain place has much to do with the place you're in. It's more who you surround yourself with, what you do, how much money you make, where you fit in socially, etc. Being unhappy with where you are simply because of things like crime, etc. doesn't really work for me. Maybe that's why I really like Oklahoma City?

[Rudey]

Originally Posted by ZTAngel

NYC is actually pretty clean for a big city. I've always been impressed every time I visit with how the sidewalks are rarely littered, there's not too much smog, etc.

Atlanta on the other hand. Bleh. The smog problem is unbelievable. During the winter, I can see Stone Mountain clearly from my office but during the summer...forget it. The visibility is poor and I'm over 30 floors up. Also, if you go to Stone Mountain and you look out at downtown Atlanta, the city is looks like it's enclosed in a yellow/gray cloud.

You're serious? I think Chicago is the only clean big city out there.

NY is great. In fact it's probably the best city filled with the best and brightest. But it's definitely not clean. The good news is that the high rents are forcing the poor people into NJ so the crowds in bars will undoubtedly become much cooler.

-Rudey

[Jimmy Choo]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

I agree with those who said Charlotte is a great place to live. Although when I find out whose idea it was to tear up EVERY street in South End at the same time, that person won't wake up the next day.

AlphaFrog, didn't you know the orange barrels are the new state symbol for all of North Carolina?

[agzg]

Cities/Areas I wouldn't live in:
- NYC/Boston - Strong accents kill me, and this is from someone that grew up in NY State. I love my state, I hate my city. I'd go to visit NYC to see shows and that's about it.
- Most Southern Cities - I love winter, and I love getting all four seasons. I can't handle too much heat/humidity. I turn the AC on whenever it gets up to 80 degrees. They might be beautiful, just not for me.
- LA - The whole "innocent bystander" and "I'm an actor" thing would drive me up the wall.
- Buffalo - I love the Bills, I love the Sabres, but there's just nothing there.
- Toronto - My car was broken into during a 3 day visit there once. I like the city itself, I'm a big fan of musicals/theatre, but I'm really tentative to go back.

Cities that I would live in and not like:
- Washington, DC. I'm going for a career in intelligence, and all roads lead to DC, but I just in general don't really like the city. I'm not looking forward to sweating it out in my business attire during the summers - my parents visited with my brother and his girlfriend a couple of weeks ago, and they about dropped from the heat - even in their "tourist attire." I haven't been there in years though so I can't outright say "I WILL HATE LIVING HERE" or anything.

Cities that I thought I wouldn't like but do:
- Pittsburgh. I thought I would hate it when I moved here. My hometown has about half as many people living in it than the number of people that go to the University of Pittsburgh. But, I live in a really green area, I feel like I live in a smaller town, but you have all the good parts of city living. I like it so far but we'll see. As well as being a fan of the Bills, my PA college education taught me that the Steelers aren't as bad as they seem . I still don't like the Pirates, and I hate the Penguins, but the Steelers aren't all that bad.
- Wheeling, WV. Not a bad little city. There's certainly more going on there than meets the eye. My brother lives near there and it was alright.

Cities that I will never live in again:
- Erie, PA. I'll visit, I went to college there, but there are just too many crazies around. Every other person walking the streets is a candidate for a mental institute. Anyone that's lived there longer than 6 months would agree. We called them "erieites."

It's all completely subjective, though. What's one person's paradise is another person's hell.