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07-29-2004, 11:37 AM
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Re: Re: Ok, major American sociological question
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First, he's pretty impressive.
The black/white parents piece is a part of his story, and I suspect it's one of the things that he and his organization play up to some extent.
When a candidate (or other notable person) chooses to lay those facts out, why shouldn't they be used. To not mention them would be to not tell the entire story.
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And not too many years ago, being "bi-racial" was looked upon by BOTH racial groups. Being bi-racial made a person a virtual orphan in the eyes of many purists (ugh...hate that thought). You were the "other", and left out of many networking opportunities and social organizations.
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07-29-2004, 11:40 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Ok, major American sociological question
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And not too many years ago, being "bi-racial" was looked upon by BOTH racial groups. Being bi-racial made a person a virtual orphan in the eyes of many purists (ugh...hate that thought). You were the "other", and left out of many networking opportunities and social organizations.
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My conservative father and I have always found a common ground in finding multi-racial/ethnic persons to be better looking than persons of the pure form. *shrug*
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07-29-2004, 11:57 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Ok, major American sociological question
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And not too many years ago, being "bi-racial" was looked upon by BOTH racial groups. Being bi-racial made a person a virtual orphan in the eyes of many purists (ugh...hate that thought). You were the "other", and left out of many networking opportunities and social organizations.
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Are you bi-racial??
My mother is bi-racial, born and raised in St. Louis. She identifies as a Black woman because back in the 1950s I don't believe calling oneself bi-racial was even a thought. If you look Black in America people will treat you as such. But since there are soooo many combos that exist within our society I'm sure each person has a different experience.
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07-29-2004, 12:01 PM
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His name
How come Barak can't decide how to spell his name?
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07-29-2004, 01:43 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Ok, major American sociological question
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And not too many years ago, being "bi-racial" was looked upon by BOTH racial groups.
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My maternal grandmother was considered a "half breed." (Cherokee/White) Not a nice word.
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07-29-2004, 01:49 PM
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My mother's Hispanic (and if you dig a little deeper she has Hindu blood as well) and my father's New York Irish; in the early days when my mother and father were dating my paternal grandparents were completely opposed to it; they mellowed out over the years.
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07-29-2004, 01:56 PM
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My mom is Filipino and my dad is just plain ole white. His family is from Tennessee (right on the border of Alabama) and I don't think my mom's ethnicity was ever an issue (that I know of). Which I guess is odd since southerners are supposed to be close minded and all  (and my relatives fit the southern stereotype perfectly)
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07-29-2004, 02:02 PM
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Sometimes I have difficulty opening up and some might say I'm emotionally unavailable.
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--This thread turned into a therapy session. I love it.
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07-29-2004, 02:05 PM
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--This thread turned into a therapy session. I love it.
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I was thinking the SAME thing, lol.
Now back to topic of the thread.
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07-29-2004, 02:52 PM
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Just another bleeding heart liberal. I don't think he will have much of an impact if elected. There are only so many low level government jobs out there for all the inner city high school dropouts.
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07-29-2004, 05:38 PM
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i never heard of him before until the other nights keynote speech ....now i am republican and i am voting kerry this yr and have been following this convention and his speech the other night was AWESOME! he will be going places i gurantee it! truly awesome speech.
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07-29-2004, 06:16 PM
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i never heard of him before until the other nights keynote speech ....now i am republican and i am voting kerry this yr and have been following this convention and his speech the other night was AWESOME! he will be going places i gurantee it! truly awesome speech.
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Really now madam, what makes you a "Republican"? Is it just the fact that you registered as one?
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07-29-2004, 08:08 PM
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I voted for Barack Obama in the Illinois primary because he seemed to be a nice guy, wasn't a negative-ad-airing attack dog, had the Law Review leadership qualities, had an interesting personal background (geographically as well as racially), had state senate experience, and seemed to actually mean what he said, as opposed to the other candidates. He didn't engage in any poking at Jim Ryan, nor at the democratic candidate that was the front-runner until a divorce scandal popped up. I was really excited that Obama won. And the more I read about him and hear him speak, the better I feel about my vote. I think he can be a positive force for change in the US Senate.
If I was a Republican, I would've voted for Steve Rauschenberger (I can't spell his name correctly most of the time, either!), who also seems to be a great guy, represents the nearby area, had state congressional experience, and had more moderate views than many of the other candidates. He came in third. I would love it if he was tapped to run against Obama, since I know that even if Obama were to lose, I could trust Steve R. to do a good job and not be an asshole or totally screw everything up.
Judy Barr Topinka (Treasurer, I believe) would be another decent Republican to run against Obama; I voted for her when she last ran for office. She seemed to stick to the issues and actually work to make a difference.
Unfortunately, I don't think either of them would want to accept the nomination to run against Barack Obama. But either would be really awesome. Imagine-- a positive campaign that didn't focus on digging up dirt on your opponent, but actually stayed to the issues!
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07-29-2004, 08:37 PM
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Judy Barr Topinka (Treasurer, I believe) would be another decent Republican to run against Obama; I voted for her when she last ran for office. She seemed to stick to the issues and actually work to make a difference.
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Judy gave a wonderful speech at one of the luncheons at Convention last week, and she is a remarkable woman with an impressive political experience under her belt. She carried 234293846 headaches with her (including finding a suitable opponent for State Sen. Obama), but somehow she found the time to speak to 950 of her sisters at Conventnion.
She's an amazing Alpha Gam!
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07-29-2004, 10:11 PM
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Go Judy! (I'm glad I wouldn't have to decide whether to vote for a Democrat or a sister.. I enjoyed her speech though!)
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