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As a comparison, here are stats from our fellow Greek Chat member Ariesrising's Greek Info Pages web site. 
 
http://www3.telus.net/ariesrising/ 
 
 
Sororities with 100 plus chapters 
 
176 Chi Omega 
165 Delta Zeta 
143 Alpha Phi 
143 Delta Gamma 
143 Zeta Tau Alpha 
 
135 Delta Delta Delta 
134 Pi Beta Phi 
133 Alpha Chi Omega 
133 Alpha Delta Pi 
130 Kappa Kappa Gamma 
 
124 Kappa Delta 
124 Kappa Alpha Theta 
123 Phi Mu 
114 Alpha Gamma Delta 
114 Gamma Phi Beta 
 
113 Alpha Sigma Tau 
112 Alpha Omicron Pi 
112 Alpha Xi Delta 
113 Phi Sigma Sigma 
113 Sigma Kappa 
 
107 Sigma Sigma Sigma 
 
 
Sororities with 100,000 plus initiates 
 
225,000 Chi Omega 
220,000 Zeta Tau Alpha 
210,000 Delta Delta Delta 
205,000 Pi Beta Phi 
191,000 Kappa Alpha Theta 
 
190,000 Delta Gamma 
186,000 Kappa Kappa Gamma 
183,000 Alpha Delta Pi 
177,501 Kappa Delta 
162,929 Alpha Chi Omega 
 
137,813 Delta Zeta 
136,000 Alpha Gamma Delta 
131,825 Phi Mu 
129,439 Alpha Phi 
125,000 Alpha Omicron Pi 
 
120,000 Alpha Xi Delta 
117,290 Sigma Kappa 
103,688 Gamma Phi Beta 
103,688 Sigma Sigma Sigma 
 
 
Fraternities with 100 plus chapters 
 
364 Lambda Chi Alpha 
300 Tau Kappa Epsilon 
258 Sigma Phi Epsilon 
245 Kappa Sigma 
228 Sigma Chi 
 
210 Sigma Nu 
208 Sigma Alpha Epsilon 
192 Pi Kappa Alpha 
175 Phi Delta Theta 
157 Alpha Tau Omega 
 
147 Theta Chi 
129 Pi Kappa Phi 
128 Phi Gamma Delta 
126 Beta Theta Pi 
126 Kappa Alpha Order 
 
123 Sigma Pi 
117 Delta Chi 
110 Delta Sigma Phi 
 
 
Fraternities with 100,000 plus initiates 
 
262,000 Sigma Alpha Epsilon 
240,000 Sigma Phi Epsilon 
238,000 Sigma Chi 
235,000 Lambda Chi Alpha 
208,600 Tau Kappa Epsilon 
 
201,000 Phi Delta Theta 
200,000 Kappa Sigma 
195,963 Sigma Nu 
180,000 Pi Kappa Alpha 
170,500 Alpha Tau Omega 
 
167,500 Beta Theta Pi 
140,997 Theta Chi 
139,700 Phi Gamma Delta 
118,097 Zeta Beta Tau 
115,000 Kappa Alpha Order 
 
110,000 Delta Upsilon 
110,000 Phi Sigma Kappa 
105,000 Delta Sigma Phi 
102,000 Phi Kappa Psi
			
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 More like around 215,000...I don't know how updated or accurate that website really is...
 
There are also 218 International Chapters.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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				07-16-2004, 06:51 PM
			
			
			
		  
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			Definately not to burst anyone's bubble but the KAT site says they have "number more than 170,000" with "more than 120 chapters". 
http://www.kappaalphatheta.org/kat_v...hetod_body.cfm
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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I just updated my site with a Numbers section, that has all updated numbers. Some are outdated (the smaller organizations especially), but many are as current as I could find on official sites and from GC of course lol. 
			
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 Great website!!  Kappa Alpha Psi and Iota Phi Theta are also NIC members.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Off the back of the most recent arrow Pi Beta Phi has: 
 
223,969 initiated members 
134 Active chapters (1 colony NC Delta) 
351 Alum clubs
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				07-16-2004, 07:39 PM
			
			
			
		  
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				Originally posted by TSteven To get the historical average chapter size you would then need to divide that number by the total cumulative number of years for all active chapters.[/B]
			
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 That would only work if you could also get the number of years that a chapter was dormant, so that dormancy could be factored.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
	
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How can it be possible to have an average chapter size of 100?  Am I underestimating the number of HUGE chapters out there?  I would have thought that there are way more medium-sized Greek systems than that.  But maybe DG is just at ALL of the bigger schools and not as many of the smaller ones?  Still, I would be really surprised (in a good way!) if this is true. 
			
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 I'm leaning toward agreeing with my (chapter   ) sister. Some chapters are in the 200s (Mississippi State and Ole Miss come to mine) which would raise the average chapter size   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Yeah, once it was explained to me, I could see how it would happen.  GOOD JOB DG!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Here's some info I found for LAMBDA THETA ALPHA, a Latina sorority. 
 
They have 68 undergraduate chapters (including one in my school). 
 
7 alumnae chapters in Texas, California, Ney York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Maryland, and Florida. 
 
4 Graduate chapters in New Jersey, Connecticut, Texas, and Maryland. 
 
The OMEGA chapter is reserved for deceased sisters. I don't know what this entails b/c I don't belong to this organization but I found it interesting.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Those numbers are a little too weird on that second post... 
The second post makes no sense...
 
From what i've heard and have SEEN from the website you provided, there's no one with over 300 chapters right now in terms of fraternities... 
 
Where exactly did you get the numbers that you posted on this board? 
 
The Ariesrising numbers are on the following website which is a CLEAR LINK on the provided Ariesrising that displays most numbers of chapters and initiates:
 http://www3.telus.net/ariesrising/numbers.html
That looks like the 1st one and is clearly labeled as updated to July 2004...
 
OH, and BY THE WAY, EVERY Fraternity has WEAK chapters...
 
I've seen WEAK TKE Chapters, WEAK SAE Chapters, WEAK Sig Ep Chapters, etc...     ANd all 3 of those aformetioned are stong on my campus... 
It all depends on the school and the system... 
 
GO BEACH!!! 
GO T K E!!!  (STILL the LARGEST FRATERNITY IN THE WORLD)...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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Yeah, once it was explained to me, I could see how it would happen.  GOOD JOB DG! 
			
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				keep 'em strong
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			if you have a good chapter adviser, one who will come to most 
of the meetings...and 
if you have a good board who meets...without exception...each month and has reports from... 
    chapter president 
    house manager & house mother, if applicable 
    chapter treasurer (board the baddies, tho, bill collectors) 
    rush chairman & pledge trainer 
    pledge president, if possible and time permits... 
Advisers, board members, even old grouches like me...we really 
care...and we love our fraternity!  We weep when we lose a chapter and have orphaned alumni...we really do. 
Help us to keep you a winner!   Fraternity is for life. 
Do this, and you will win....for the rest of your life!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			To confirm KD has over 180,000 members.  
We have 487 chartered Alumnae Assoc. Chapters (almost at 500!) 
I do believe that we do have 127 active college chapters 
and we have 207 chartered chapters.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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See I was hoping NIC or one of the umbrella orgs would be willing to do it or had the numbers and then shared.  But again, in all honesty, I don't believe in this ever occuring. 
 
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 I don't either.  People don't want to talk about retention or lack of same with other groups - it's the elephant in the room.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Sigma Kappa actually publishes our annual report with a lot of this information on the public section of our website.  Its not completely up to date but according to the 2002-2003 annual report we have: 
108 collegiate chapters 
8,335 collegiate members 
(which if you do the math means we have an average chapter size of about 77.) 
We also have 145 active alumnae chapters and clubs. 
As of June 1, 2003, there were 135,862 total members. 
 
Oh and for whoever was asking about retention and gpa, we had an 85% initiation rate and the averge gpa was 3.02. 
 
Now wouldn't it be great if every org released this information?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Sigma Alpha Iota 
 
# of active college chapters: 200ish 
# of active alum chapters: about 120 
 
Total # of initiates since 1903: about 100,000 
 
Not sure how many active members; I'll look into that.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
	
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